Ever felt that nudge telling you it's time to pack up your creative toolkit and stride into a new adventure? This week the ladies of "We Ate" speak about the tug and pull that the film and television industry has on their creativity. Our host give first hand accounts of what has pushed them to quit a project and what should be industry standard non-negotiables.
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Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
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Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
Ever felt that nudge telling you it's time to pack up your creative toolkit and stride into a new adventure? This week the ladies of "We Ate" speak about the tug and pull that the film and television industry has on their creativity. Our host give first hand accounts of what has pushed them to quit a project and what should be industry standard non-negotiables.
Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
Credit and special thanks goes to:
Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
what's up, it's your girl. Chic lorraine, I am your style music, media and visual. Just a little creative little thing. I'm a little creative, you're just creative. She's burst a little energy. Hey y'all, hey girl, my name is Mia Nunnally. She a costume designer, costume designer and creative director. This has been two weeks, uh-huh, uh-huh, even three.
Speaker 2:Hi guys, it's winter here. You know, I'm with the Manor Co. I do all things design. That's me, hey girl, hi oh what's up y'all?
Speaker 1:this is Iza Duniani. I am assistant costume designer, producer, host of this here podcast, ceo of Women Building Wealth Collective. We're here for another week. Oh y'all, dear god. Okay, so y'all. This week it was. It's an interesting week following our conversation with Daron, because it was right as like come on, pop the box, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop that that's right when.
Speaker 1:Sean Gere had just took over, or Gurr Gurr just took over at Alexander McQueen. We had a little brief conversation about that last episode, but then this week succession has been the theme because Dries Van Notten just stepped down from his namesake design house. Then we have the creative director of Valentino stepping down and it's just, it's giving spring is clearing people out.
Speaker 2:OK, spring cleaning, spring cleaning, spring cleaning.
Speaker 1:You know everybody is moving and it just brought this theme to me of, like, growth, you know, cleaning out your the things that you don't want, like, when is it time to let things go? When is it time to move forward? When is it time to double down? I feel like I've had this, we've had this conversation with you, mia um, about like, oh, I knew I was taught it was time for me to go when I got here, and now it's really time to go.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know that was my theme, so I just wanted to bring the question to you guys. When do you think it's time to clear it out and let it go when it comes to work or relationships? I don't want nothing. I'm good, I just want some juice.
Speaker 2:I ain't drinking.
Speaker 1:So I think we should talk about it in the context of like work. When do you feel is the point that like it's time to move on from a project? And just for those who are listening, because we work in the entertainment industry, when you leave work, you're a lot more likely to leave a job, you know, without it being finished in this world. I think so. Then corporate, corporate people sit there and suffer for years. We'll be like halfway through. It's not a good look, or there's another project, or you know what I'm saying. I have to move and you just say I'll bow out and I'll see you next time. And there's not usually a whole lot of malice held over people when it's time to move on.
Speaker 1:And it's different because the industry is different.
Speaker 2:Like you're working on a project basis.
Speaker 1:So like you don't have to see the same people every day, you don't have to you know, work and talk and be you know with these same people. Or like see these same four walls every day with no sunlight, like it's different.
Speaker 2:However, yeah, it be time to go.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I don't. I don't think I've ever quit a job, but there have definitely been times where I've become close and I think what's important is to set your. You know, you may not know, coming into this industry, um, when you're green, but or you know, it just depends. Like if you're the type of person that already just has solid ass fucking boundaries, then that's great, but what you need to do is decide what is your, your absolute the fuck knows. Like. What we're not gonna do is this, and if yeah, I'm out and it's okay.
Speaker 1:I walked away from a project one time and it was like this how petty it is. I left a week before it's about to be done. I said you know what I can't. I'm not gonna finish this week or like two weeks before it's about to be done. It's all about the energy of the people we work.
Speaker 1:So even when something's like really hard and stupid and ridiculous for instance, the game the first when the game came back and we had our first designer and it was rough boots and sis got fired on the very first day of shooting. Wow, and the lady who was consulting I was, um, the key customer on the truck at the time. So for those those who don't know, I just organize clothes, clean clothes, send clothes out all day. Organize as in.
Speaker 2:You did more than that. Don't make it sound so, no, no, it's not that trivial, but I get it. Great job. You trying to explain for the people. Yeah, just for people who don't know.
Speaker 1:I leaned on her a lot. Yeah For yeah. For people who don't know, it's a truck where all the clothes stay and then the gist of it is just that you clean, you organize, you're the point person for the clothes going out to set. Okay, cool, the designer is. There is a moment where there's a designer and a consultant at this point where she has gotten fired and the consultant is on the truck talking to me about what needs to happen in order to like, move forward and keep the show moving, even though this designer is getting fired and the consultant, after some time before. I think it's right. Before they chose Mia to come on as the designer. Um, the consultant was like oh, do you want to? I have like a project. You want to come to my project? I had no idea this, me hearing it for the first time yeah, did she ask me to come from?
Speaker 1:the courage from the game. I was on the game and after working with her for like two weeks, they were still trying to figure out what was going to happen with a new designer. She asked me she was like can you want to come work with me on a new project? Granted, if it was a bad working environment with everybody else on the team.
Speaker 1:Mind you, my mama was the supervisor, my man was on a team like you know, what I'm saying home girls, like it was a great vibe, minus, you know, the designer who had been working with us previously. So I was like no, I'm not leaving, because I mean I actually thoroughly. It might be a shit show, but I actually enjoy the people I'm working with and we have to spend so many hours that to me that's like the most important thing.
Speaker 1:It is no, it's not the most important the creativity but one of them to make you stay like is the environment and the people. And that was like I literally was like no. And she was like what, why not? You can negotiate your rate. And I was like I hear you, but at the end of the day, like I'm not about to come over there. First of all, you're poaching me from a team right now and you're supposed to be consulting and clearly you're gonna.
Speaker 1:You're trying to poach me because I'm good. Why would you take something good away from the team that needs more support?
Speaker 2:right, you don't give a fuck, right. But that.
Speaker 1:For why would I even do that? You know, why would I even consider that? And I stayed over there? Because of the people that I thoroughly enjoyed. On the other hand, I worked on projects that, creatively, were fantastic. Like I enjoyed it. I was inspired and the team sucked, and I quit for that reason, because I was like it's 16, 17 hours a day, um, sometimes six days a week.
Speaker 1:If I can't, if I don't feel supported or like there's just good energy, I don't have to like you, but as long as there's respect, if there's not that, then I'm gonna, I'm gonna bounce. I gotta go. I agree what's your heart stop. My heart stop is what you just said. Okay, it just depends on what I'm doing in the project. I have come to a point in my career where I do not want to take anything that does not serve me creatively.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should so as a costume designer.
Speaker 1:I am not going to take some random Tubi project. I mean, I'm not saying I wouldn't take Tubi because there is a project on Tubi right now. That's probably going to be like. It's like a. Have y'all seen that article about that prep school? It's like a gossip girl but it's all black. I think I have, yeah, and it's an article about how that. I kind of I'm gonna look that up an article about how that particular show is going to put to be on the top of its game. It's out of the uk. Okay, no, no, yeah it's out of the uk.
Speaker 1:That makes that makes sense, but I'll circle back on that. But if it's a project about you know, shaquita uh decided that she was like something called mama's funeral or whatever, about how these kids, how these people, you know, didn't do well in the funeral and this person wig is all fucked up and you know they making fun of it on Instagram and I'm the one who designed it and I got paid a thousand dollars a week. No, I'm not that point. So that is. My boundaries are being able to work in a creative environment. That the script speaks to me. But if I am in a non-design role, I need to be like you said. I need to like you Because I see you guys more than I see my family. I say this all the time and if I'm going to see you 12 hours a day, or 10 hours in my case, then I need to have that energy that is, you're going to fulfill me and I'm going to have to learn from someone on the team.
Speaker 1:Someone is going to have to teach me something new that I didn't learn before. I have to be taking something from you. To teach me something new is really important.
Speaker 2:It's a big deal.
Speaker 1:Because you feel bored. It's like kids. We were talking about this earlier. You get bored when you don't feel like you're learning anything or you're just moving in this like treadmill of redundancy, like it's whack so I mean that's a good. I might be adding that to the list. If I'm not learning something, I gotta go. Yeah, you gotta be challenged mentally. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, but it's time to go. Sometimes it's just time to move on. Move on despite the.
Speaker 1:So we operate out of fear yeah because we all are, um, what we call independent contractors. So we all are operating out of fear. Oh, I gotta take this job because I need to pay my bills. Oh I gotta take my this job because I don't know when the next check is gonna come. And that fear that we operate is just so and operate in is so unbelievably dangerous to me because it's debilitating, exactly. It feels like we just cannot get out of that hamster wheel and if I don't take this job then I can't eat and I can't stand that.
Speaker 1:I had a show that I was just working on not too long ago and the assistant costume designer was fired and she, when the UPM fired her, she's beginning to throw things, whoa. And she was like Wait literally.
Speaker 1:Slam shit on the ground this, my shit, this, my shit. And she said I have to feed my daughter. And she called me right away and she was crying, boo-hooing. She is up to debt because we've been on strike, you know. She up to here in debt, you know, and I have. She is a single mother. The man don't give a shit. The father, whatever his, you know, don't get. So. It's like that fear that she operated in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to take that job just to take that job, and she overcompensated for that fear, which is why she lost that job. It's just so unhealthy, that's that's scary, that's more scary than anything.
Speaker 2:Is like the designer was like.
Speaker 1:I see your fear. Yeah, she was like I see it. I see all of that fear. I'm going to like you. You're answering questions. You don't need to be asking me what. You asking me questions? You should not be asking me because you're the assistant costume designers. But she was asking out of fear you know, it's just just trying to make double back and make sure she wasn't messing this up, or doing that or doing, but the designer don't like all of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a new york designer.
Speaker 1:She's like bitch. You need to know your shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can't be asking me where this goes, yeah I don't care, just to figure it out, because she's supposed to be assisting me.
Speaker 1:You making my shit stressful yeah, you're making me, you're making me need another fire like damn.
Speaker 1:That sucks that sucks like yeah, it is, the thing is real the one thing I can say about the strike and covid a little bit, just about time down, the forced time down. It made me realize, like you have this whole other pocket of like tools that you don't, that you're not using on a day-to-day basis when you go to this job, that you're fearful of losing. You know what I'm saying. Like it kind of like put a spark of I I wouldn't call it creativity, but it was like of a confidence boost of like okay, it's, it's hard. I'm still not, you know, up, like I was up when I was working, but I ain't fall, I'm not all the way down. You know what I'm saying. Like I have tools, I have resources, I'm actually getting more creative on how I can, like utilize these things, and my thing that coming out of that has now been how do you maintain that same spark that you had while you're still going to work? Yeah, that is the struggle.
Speaker 2:How do I stay?
Speaker 1:inspired to come to this podcast on Saturdays and, like you know what I'm saying, and have my meetings at 10 o'clock in the morning on Saturday with my other thing and then, still have to go to work from Monday to Friday, like it's a wild day, to Saturday or Saturday, it's like crazy.
Speaker 1:Um, and that's the thing for me and I'm I say this with confidence not to like push any opportunities away from me, but just in the sense that, like the issue that I've always had, if I'm working on something else outside of a show, it's very difficult for me to focus on that and and still give all the extra to this show shows because they're typically very stressful. You know the deal and so like for me right now. I was like I just cannot take a full-time situation. I would love the check yeah, I mean I could totally get the check, but I just can't do it because y'all keep playing with our money, y'all keep playing with our livelihoods. Let me focus on what the fuck I got going on here and building in those things, as opposed to coming running to y'all every time because y'all might decide to strike again.
Speaker 1:Or let's do this, or we're not going to whatever.
Speaker 2:Like they know that too and they keep fucking with our pay. They trying to.
Speaker 1:It's looming, it's looming, it sounds like you know, it seems like the Teamsters are good. I guess they negotiated their stuff, yeah, because who's going to let them Teamsters rock. But what I'm saying is they're playing with the money, they're paying less. After we've fought and stood in solidarity with everybody else, now they don't want to pay. Nobody right. Solid, a solid rate. Everybody's getting underpaid not everybody, but you know, for them that has become the trend, even, like in the commercial world, even you know, it's just trickled down, it's like damn it's like that okay.
Speaker 1:Well, you know you're gonna have to do some give or take, but at the same time it's like come on yeah but they're doing that because people are taking that low pay. Yeah, they're controlling this shit.
Speaker 2:Shout out to those who don't yeah, it ain't easy, it's hard, because that's really what it is. It ain't fucking easy because you need the money. That right there is my boundary. If you don't value my worth, I can't fuck with you. That's just what it is, because you know it's about to be a headache anyway and it's going to be unnecessary stress and not even enough to pay, and they're going to ask you to do more.
Speaker 1:Once they ask you for less, to pay you less, they're going to ask you to do more.
Speaker 2:For sure, that's a boundary For sure that right there, that's my line.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:If you don't value me, I business. That's family. Yeah, I just can't do. That's very fair, because you know your worth.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it be as little as a fucking dollar sometimes, which is so crazy. Yep, I've literally had that conversation where a rate went down to a dollar less than what I was working on the same fucking production and I was like the next season, the next day, wait, how you know how they?
Speaker 2:tried it, you know how.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so we got you down for XYZ tomorrow night. That ain't what they told me yesterday.
Speaker 1:I was like you don't have to tell me nothing, but what I had before is what I need to be getting now. I don't need to go down nothing, unless I'm taking a different position. My rate is, my rate right and they rate right and they were like oh well, I you know it's different on these. If, if I'm here for a hundred years making 10 000 fucking movies, you know what I'm saying, then pay me what I need to. It needs to increase over time, as it matters, not decrease, not decrease, and then this is what they do. They then they'll hire they put your rate down to like whatever and then they'll hire a new york or la or la. In our case, we have a new york buyer who starts at like 50 dollars, 61 bitch. What? Wow? She starts she need to shop the whole show. Let her do do it. So here go me.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, but I need this, this, this this, this, this this, this, this, yeah, no, no, and fuck that cost of living. Bullshit, I don't really give a fuck, it's not that it's coming up here.
Speaker 2:It's high here. It's high here yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't give it, but I will say not and strike shit. But they fought for what they wanted and we can't keep. If we want to make more money, we gotta stand our ground, we gotta stand ten toes down and fight for that shit. That's what the fuck we said four years ago.
Speaker 2:And they didn't do shit.
Speaker 1:They only doing it now because what we just went through, they said, oh, everybody, doubled down we. Good, you know what I'm saying. You should have did it last time, because what we just went through, they said, oh, everybody, doubled down we good, you know what I'm saying, but like what you should have, did it last time, so we wouldn't have to do this shit now Right. Because now we've already we've been hit hard with this strike Hard Like people are out here.
Speaker 2:They're struggling Bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like almost a whole year later now is like really hitting yeah For some people. So it's like it's part of it, it's part of this industry that we're in. It's like it's just all part of the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hate to say it.
Speaker 1:I'm not giving no full time. Anything I can day play I can do a little is hell. I might go work full time, full time from home, that type of situation. That's why I was like you know I'll do that if but I have to make it work yeah but being on set or just you know the hours.
Speaker 2:We work all day I can't, I can't commit, and that's the that's the promise and the boundary I set for myself.
Speaker 1:We're not doctors. We be doing 95 hours a week.
Speaker 2:We're not curing cancer or saving lives.
Speaker 1:We're not, but we work on people Pretty much the same hours. Imagine us putting in 95 hours into our own shit a week. Boom, there you go. That would be a whole beautiful revolution in this life. I would love to see it. I would love to fucking see it. But what's crazy is I've noticed that those that I've seen before the strike and now that I'm seeing them now I've seen they look better. Their faces are cleaner. Oh, like people, people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're taking more time for yourself.
Speaker 1:They took a lot, you know they lost some they shed. They took a lot, you know they lost some, they shed some LBs, you know their face is clear. They look just really like relaxed and rejuvenated. Of course they have the money on their bets, but they, oh, I took the time and I, you know, I did a lot of regrounding. I did a lot of like walking or whatever it is that they were doing, and they just look better. Yeah, because, yeah, because I mean in real life like like the us is not real life.
Speaker 1:Like no 2024 america is not real life. Like anybody working 50, even 50 hours a week is like a lot, it's a lot, and then we go home and then we just reel off of like yeah what we have to do next who you have to do next and nobody like goes outside. We're talking about my homegirls was talking about this morning. Kids don't go outside, they don't go play oh no, we have to set up.
Speaker 1:Time was times with other parents to take your kids outside. It's like we was down a block baby play date. We used to be down the block, okay. My mom would say get out of my house, don't come in until it's time to eat, leave me alone. And we'd be out. Same here. At my grandmama's house somewhere, probably. It's a little weird. Now it's for the kids.
Speaker 2:We were all outside, did y'all see?
Speaker 1:that no champagne. Uh-uh, you want some champagne. What y'all watching? I'm curious. I started watching. I got a list. I started. I came back to the new look. I really enjoyed that. I just watched that. I've been watching it for the last like three days. That's the Dior story, right and Coco Chanel.
Speaker 2:That's why I text y'all.
Speaker 1:I said that them Dotsies. Well, they had her ass stressed the fuck out.
Speaker 2:Listen, she's like where my money at A girl was stressed.
Speaker 1:They tossed this into a whirlwind. Okay, they're like okay, I want my company back, but God damn, you want it that bad.
Speaker 2:But can you not tell nobody, I want it that bad, please.
Speaker 1:I don't want to do this.
Speaker 2:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, that was so good.
Speaker 2:The Gentleman. I don't want to do this, oh my god. Um, that was so good. The gentleman's been good. Have y'all jay's been watching that that's good, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't finished yet, but I saw the movie years ago with, I think, matthew mcconaughey. I'm gonna check it out. It's apple, uh, no netflix springs is good.
Speaker 2:um, royal palm, royal, royal Palm, yep, royal Palm. I'm about to open that up. That's great.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting. Palm Royal. That is fantastic I started it, but I kept falling asleep. No the costume is top tier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out to the costume designer. The show it's the show called Palm.
Speaker 1:Royal. Okay, there you go, palm.
Speaker 2:Royal I, it's the show called Palm Royale.
Speaker 1:There you go Palm Royale. I think it's the.
Speaker 2:Royal Palm. It's Palm Royale.
Speaker 1:The Royal Palm. Oh, I finished. I've watched Big Little Lies. What's the shit called Feud, the Truman Capote's Swans? I did not know what I was about to see. It's very disturbing at times, yes I also stopped. Well, no, yeah feud is wild yeah first of all I thought it was. I thought it was some mob wife shit like real mob wives, like actual feud capote. I heard an italian name.
Speaker 2:I saw the chicks in their lace okay, I can understand where you would get that York.
Speaker 1:Elite. Okay, yeah, that's what it is it ended up being. I was like wait, and then who is this guy that we're talking about? The journalist and he's the writer.
Speaker 2:He's a writer At.
Speaker 1:Tiffany's, yeah and and True Crime. True Crime and the one with the. He helped Harper I'm sorry, Harper Lee and Tequila Mockingbird Wow, he was one of her editors or something like that. Yeah, he did a lot of stuff, he's a good time writer. He was really well known back in the day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this dude said it was messy Messy, it was messy Boots. Messy but the crazy thing is, he had his entire social circle business out.
Speaker 1:Listen and of color it's, but that's one of them things. You sit around and you listen to people talk shit about all these people with spread stories and you, kiki, and you laughing, you drink your champagne there's always one I'm gonna tell you right now he kicking it over your story at the next party and y'all surprised and he said also I'm gonna make a check off of it.
Speaker 2:Did you see the black and white ball?
Speaker 1:that zach posen designed. Fantastic. I wanted to make. I wanted him to. I heard his article, excuse me, I heard an article yeah, read an article about that, and I wanted to make sure that he credited the costume designer because you, what he did was he designed the principal cast. Okay, exactly for that scene yeah, but I mean, how can you not credit the costume designer? It's still going to be, conceptually, the costume designer's vision and she did everyone else surrounding him, but he did ooh, like the peacock costume.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one with the girl who killed the? Husband, supposedly Allegedly. How was Demi Moore?
Speaker 1:She looked.
Speaker 2:Never mind, she looked aged. Yeah, they aged her. You see her today. She looks fucking great. Oh, in that leather. Oh, my God, she looked good.
Speaker 1:I don't even know if I like the dress, but the way that it fit and the way she looked in it. I was like oh, she wearing the shit out of that.
Speaker 2:It was like a brown leather something.
Speaker 1:Maybe that was nice. It was like a brown leather something. Maybe that was nice. I've always been a fan of hers. I don't know about her, demi Moore, her name, demi Moore, I know.
Speaker 2:Demi.
Speaker 1:I went on Pinterest. I'm just this is another rant. I be going on Pinterest in the mornings on Saturday, whatever, and I saw Telsha running through my Pinterest for some reason, yeah, and I was like I put all the pictures in your little thing.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh, Mia this is you, girl, this is you right now. I really like Telsha. It's so easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's just like the pieces are great yeah.
Speaker 2:And she's like fuck it, I'm going to go to the grocery store, it's giving. I'm going to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 1:I can do both. I like it. Yeah. Have you been watching Shogun? Yes, oh, sorry, I forgot what we were talking about. That was another good one. I haven't watched it yet. Shogun is? It's about it's feudal Japan, what?
Speaker 2:does feudal Japan mean? It's that time when they fight.
Speaker 1:That's what I thought, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. I didn't want to say it out loud, so I said let me look at feudal. Japan, A feudal system. Okay, Mia's vocabulary is top tier. Honey. Well, that's what it's called. It's like the time period I guess. Feudalism was a set of legal military customs in medieval Europe, so I'm guessing this is the equivalent in Japan. Right, okay, I copy that. Yeah, I mean I like the you know the historical drama, yeah, fiction. Very like, the costumes are very kind of accurate.
Speaker 1:The men in their P like I love all that shit. The women who they have to kill, they kill the lady who killed the gardener for touching the fucking bird yeah, yeah. Like shit, like that. It's like I love to learn about other cultures without having to read about it. It's based, everything is based on principle. You will die, no, and it's almost it's so beautiful, but it's so detrimental at the same.
Speaker 1:Like for real, the man climbs off the cliff to like save somebody's life, and then he almost drowned. Instead of drowning he was going to kill himself because he was like I'm not going to drown and I'm not going to not complete the mission. Yeah, you're that dedicated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that dedicated.
Speaker 1:It was interesting. There was a I don't know I mean TMI but there's a costumer that we all know who is. Well, I'll tell y'all who I am. But she was born of a Japanese. Well, her mother is Filipino and her father was black and the Filipino mother was dating a Japanese man but she had an affair and had this little black baby. When the baby was born and he found out about it, the Japanese husband. I know who you're talking about okay.
Speaker 1:He killed himself because in that culture and they had to put her up to adoption and they sent her to America. Then some family in America adopted her. Anyway, in that culture it's part of the samurai. Wow, it's what they do, so yeah, Interesting Live rich or die trying.
Speaker 2:oh what you watching winter?
Speaker 1:oh what'd? You say the royal palm oh okay, okay, okay, yeah. I just want to say palm royal, thank you, she got it there. I don't know about it, but y'all know y'all take these references okay, because this is where I learned about a lot of these shows and I'm hooked, oh you know, y'all take these references okay, because this is where I learned about a lot of these shows and I'm hooked.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know who. Y'all should see this one woman, shit. But I've been watching the. What is it called? The 100, something, 100. Oh my God, it's like a game show for these, like super fit 100 or something like that on Netflix, and it's this game show like a Korean game show and all of these fit beautifully stacked, mostly men.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1:This is reality, yes, and it is so enthralling. It's very like Mia likes to say she's just saying it's primal.
Speaker 2:It's so primal.
Speaker 1:It's good though.
Speaker 2:Oh, the physical 100. 100, it's called the physical 100. Okay, just take a gander.
Speaker 1:Okay, because first of, all, it's just something good to look at yeah, okay, that's all I have oh, I watched american fiction last night, oh did you like it, I did.
Speaker 2:Where is icy icy's out today?
Speaker 1:guys, she'll be back shortly, not shortly. Eventually, I think it was Amazon yeah, yeah. I think so. Yeah, I think it was Amazon Prime it's good.
Speaker 2:I heard it was really good. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:It's like an intellectual comedy yeah, for sure, based off of Percival Everett's Erasure, which I want to read okay. Yeah, it's definitely a good movie. For sure it's okay. I don't want to say too, oh it hit look I'm about to ask a bunch more questions. Let me, let me just look them up. Okay, can I be honest with y'all. I've been like I just really got caught up on tv the last couple days because I've been watching like mindless stuff as I work. So I'm like not yeah you know, fucking off.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I don't even turn the tv on until my son gets home and just listen to music or like play shit on youtube musically.
Speaker 1:But I was like watching fucking reality like shit like love, love island and fucking oh, you was really getting into it. Huh and uh, what's the show? Traitors? Oh yes, of course, fucking love is blind. Oh my gosh, they definitely got my time. And so, with love is blind, I can't get into the pods like that, like I'm some people, the people that maybe are slightly interesting to me I'll keep up with what they have going on in the pods but.
Speaker 1:I don't really like, I tune out, so I really don't get back into it. Until they get to the episode when they've all taken their asses to Mexico and they're all there, and then it gets juicy and fun. You're like, oh, they ain't gonna work. And they're all there, and then it gets juicy and fun. You like, oh, they ain't gonna work. I don't really give a fuck about y'all. Like y'all don't interest me, yeah, whatever. But yes, this was actually a good season. That last season was. It's always a little shit, but yeah, it's just like y'all keep doing this shit. This shit is not. No, you should have heard Duran and Ziza.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we went ham last episode. Y'all didn't hear it because we cut it out.
Speaker 1:We got into philosophical detail about this.
Speaker 2:It's a ridiculous concept About love is beyond. Because the shit ain't you make this sound so intellectual. I was like are you an idiot? It's a show where people don't know each other and talking through a wall. Baby, they don't. They have not seen each other. They've never seen each other. They don't. They can't really talk about what girl?
Speaker 1:yeah, and so it's like I feel like it's all in their head, right? Yeah, it's like oh, I'm just sharing my deepest things with you. For what? Five days? How many days are there in the pods building this connection? Oh my God, but I'm falling in love with you. I don't care what they look like. Child.
Speaker 2:You can't see each other.
Speaker 1:You can't see each other and then you get proposed to because you're a good conversation. Good conversation, that's it, that's it. This isn't real. But I can see that no, I do I feel like it can't be real? No, it can be.
Speaker 1:Think about having a pen pal If you really there's not many people, if you're isolated, if you don't have a phone, if you don't have no access to the outside world other than having conversations with this person and then going back to your bunk or whatever. Right, it's not real life If you share it. Some people don't communicate Like, think about the world today? Right, they don't really have intellectual conversations with people. They don't get deeper than the surface. They pre-check and background check people before they start dating All the things. So if you just sit down and you say hello and then you start having a conversation with somebody for like two hours and then you leave and you come back the next day and, instead of talking on the phone or whatever, you just talk to this person through a wall all through the night for 10 days, yeah, and you have no other outside influence at some point you're gonna be like and you share so many like I like this man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's the best I ever had.
Speaker 1:Y'all know the concept, though. When you do fall for people, you really fall for the person that's in within your same IQ level. You're not. The idea is not falling for someone because you find them attractive. Yes, it's mental. If you have been in enough relationships, you know that that doesn't last, that doesn't go past the front door yeah, because you don't even care.
Speaker 1:After some time you don't care you don't care like you really do have to make sure that the person that you're with you can have a conversation with stimulating. They gotta be. Yeah, I can't, I for me at least. Yeah, no that. Y'all seen the people I dated long term. It literally like they.
Speaker 1:They ran the gamut, yeah, but they mentally, at the end of the day, stimulated me yeah so if you're, if you're getting that type of stimulation for 10 consecutive days and you usually ghost people and live in this whatever society that we live in, and now I can absolutely see how you would be like.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, this is the one I mean sure you know, like eventually, and then you see the nigga and then you be like but winter, here's where it gets good. They go through this thing. They be like falling, and me and I always fall in love with at least two bitches. You know, excuse me, women, sometimes the women like they have a hard time choosing, like they've built these connections and then they eventually say yes to somebody. Somebody's heart gets broken. We don't see them no more until the middle of the season when everybody's been revealed, and now they like damn I should have picked her, or damn I should have picked him. Because it's like now your eyes see what's happening.
Speaker 2:And they get running phones, so is everyone attractive.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I don't, not to no, I don't Not to no I mean I mean beauty is an eye of the beholder.
Speaker 2:However, but like standardized attractive.
Speaker 1:Usually people match in their equality. You get a five with a five, a four with a four, a six with a six, a ten with a ten.
Speaker 2:And this is through conversation, but sometimes they end up aligning physically Some way. They end up aligning physically Some way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because usually sometimes people will be like oh, I like to go to the gym all the time. Oh, I only eat grass. Oh, me too. And then you end up having like connective tissue between the things that like you actually do.
Speaker 2:Is it a prerequisite of who they align them with?
Speaker 1:No, they just go and talk to everybody and then they see who they build a connection with and then they start like arranging dates to see that person. Would y'all get arranged marriage?
Speaker 2:well, yes, I would would. You who would arrange?
Speaker 1:it. I mean, they last longer than non-arrangements, but everybody in your family stay married so is that a y'all thing, I mean I feel like my, my parents know me well enough to arrange a marriage. Oh, okay, my dad thought about it. Yeah, no, would you let him do it?
Speaker 2:No, no, it was a conversation. He had met a well-off African.
Speaker 1:Oh God, I see.
Speaker 2:He was like I got somebody for it and then not too long ago he tried to hook me up with someone. Remember he FaceTimed him in the office. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Look here, yeah.
Speaker 2:And he wasn't my type.
Speaker 1:He was not at all Like what he was your dad, If your dad, if y'all had the same understanding. Understanding of what it's almost like when your parents buy you a gift and they don't really. That ain't your style. Thank you for thinking of me, but you don't marry it though, if you don't love it. So if I can't trust you, I'm not opposed to arrangement. You would like to do that for Laura? Yeah, of course you would. She don't want that shit for yourself.
Speaker 2:I would like Laura to be streamlined't want that shit for you. Yeah, I would like Lorde to be streamlined to like go this way, a particular kind of thing I mean kind of now we set those precedents Like you can't date no little girls who wear wigs run with them eyelashes because they don't know who they are. They're already putting falsified things on their body and face. At 15 and 16, they have no confidence with themselves. At 15 and 16, they have no confidence with themselves.
Speaker 1:Get that fuck away from you.
Speaker 2:That's a better way to put it. I love that we're not doing that here.
Speaker 1:Especially because you're so young.
Speaker 2:You're way too young If they sitting on the IG page and they got that little photo on their legs opening doing that. You know that little on the knees thing. No, she can't come over here. And you can't go to the movies with her hands, all you need nope trying to get on the move, fiddle around with your little thing if you get you a good, clean little girl I like good, clean ones good, clean, nice little girls.
Speaker 1:Maybe able to set her glasses on or something. Glasses, glasses, sensible shoes. You know name that mean something natural hair and he has a typical.
Speaker 2:He has a good type too. So he likes beautiful brown girls, which is great, shout out to my son.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:I love that.
Speaker 1:I don't know Straight man in Atlanta. My mom tried to say growing up she used to literally say that she was gonna set me up with somebody and I was mortified. She like kept it up until I was like in high school. Was it a particular person? It was the same boy, boy that comes from a nice, well-off family, and his family's friends with my family and he's a fucking weirdo.
Speaker 2:He's so strange, like strange, and not a swaggy, cool, quirky kind of strange Like.
Speaker 1:Dragon Ball Z at a grown age? Kind of strange. Remember the lady from?
Speaker 2:Harry Potter said. I think adults need to move on from Harry Potter.
Speaker 1:At this time y'all need to move on Dune or something a little bit elevated. Dune is dope. Dune is beautiful. Dune is dopest. I didn't realize how great Dune was until well.
Speaker 2:I haven't watched this yet. I don't think it's out yet. I haven't seen the second it is. It's out in theaters, oh okay, but yeah, well, the first one really. I mean it's very sci-fi, it's very heavy and very new, like it's all like you know, the aesthetics is very much like easy it feels like a easy idea.
Speaker 1:It's like watching a photo. It's like watching a beautiful painting. Yeah, they don't move, they just stay right in this dirt they do, they have great conversation, they fight, you know the stuff that come out, the dirt yeah oh, yeah, those centipedes yeah iraqis. So I am not a sci-fi person.
Speaker 2:I actually really, I really like the fat men floating, that was cool the ones that look like not, it was one fat man, it was just one guy. He like floats up, like yeah it's a beautiful story like like you hear it, like I need to re-watch it aesthetically it is appealing like I think they do a great job.
Speaker 1:I like sci-fi in general when it comes to like specially costuming, because it's just so. It came out of somebody's mind, it's out of the box. It's out of somebody's mind like it's, it's gonna take you so far in the future, so far in the past, that you like believe it. You know what I'm saying. Like that's mind, like it's, it's gonna take you so far in the future, so far in the past, that you like believe it you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:like that's the part that's so dope to me. But I've heard sci-fi be super boring, either really really boring, or too um, too real. That is scary, like like the ai sci-fi, like did y'all see pod generation yeah shit like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that shit was wild they literally grew babies.
Speaker 1:But that is what life is coming like and they don't know that, the fact that it's their normal right yeah, and no more trees like they don't like.
Speaker 2:No spider more natural. Yes, yes, he's a botanist and he's like well, what am I going to research if you take my one tree away? Jesus Christ and the family's like. I don't know why you still have your house by the sea. What so?
Speaker 1:basically, these women were having these babies in pots like eggs because they're too busy.
Speaker 2:Because they're too busy, they're feeding the idea of feminists and not wanting to have babies because they're too busy with work. That's how.
Speaker 1:I feel so they want to take out.
Speaker 2:I'm going to just tell you right now they want to take out having a child, and just you don't have to stop being busy and living your life. Just put one in the pot. I don't want to do that. And you watch it grow literally like in an egg. Yeah, you feed it, you hold it, you put it on your backpack. It's like literally taking humanity out of the whole reason why we're here Appropriated.
Speaker 1:Strange boots and the husband fought for it.
Speaker 2:He did. He fought to have a normal baby. But To have the normal pregnancy? Yeah, to have a normal pregnancy. But strangely enough, while the baby started growing, he grew attached to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Because this is his, because it's his child to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because this is his, because it's his child.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't have a choice, but yeah, it's wild.
Speaker 2:But I was like ooh, yeah, I saw one of them at Hobby Lobby.
Speaker 1:strange enough, you saw a pot Something that very similar. It looked like a big Easter egg. Yeah, that's what they look like and because Easter's coming up.
Speaker 2:I literally took that Easter egg and I took a picture of it.
Speaker 1:I was like this is the pod from pod generation.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I did watch Damsel, that was a good one. I heard that was really good. Damsel is great she did a good job, the little girl Billy Bob Millie.
Speaker 1:Millie Brown. There you go, her Millie Bobby Brown, her Billy Bob Thornton.
Speaker 2:She's great From Stranger Things. She is six from Stranger Things.
Speaker 1:Eleven there you go. Don't name nobody else today.
Speaker 2:Anyway that little girl is starring in a film called Damsel, and it's good, she's a bad bitch.
Speaker 1:I saw that she basically ends up in some sort of other world like very Snow White Not Snow White Alice in Wonderland, and she becomes a damsel in distress.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but actually she's not fighting. She's not really a damsel. Yeah, it's not Fighting the entire time. It's like Tomb Raider type shit. It's not really ends up in another world. They put her ass in there, they put her ass in there. It was a set up sacrifice, okay, yeah. Yeah, I saw don't. Yeah, no more. We don't want to tell too much because, yeah, damsel is good, you're gonna enjoy that.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, oh shit, I'm trying. There's boundaries to sci-fi? You know, for me you're gonna fuck with it on like a philosophical standpoint, just like what, what it stands for?
Speaker 2:don't fuck with it just off of that and you're gonna fuck with.
Speaker 1:I feel like you're gonna fuck with the dragon too we love the dragon.
Speaker 2:Bring your house to the dragon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's coming.
Speaker 2:When is it coming? Did you see a thing?
Speaker 1:cause what's taking this to advertisement? I don't know, I ain't seen child. I know they always take five years to get a film, one season, a game of they're very strategic. They wait until you forget about it. I hate that for real. And then, when it comes back, everyone's like oh, like cocaine, yeah, freak out like I can't wait. Oh, that's hilarious okay so what's your dream project? Because now like name a movie that could represent that or just the type of. Either way, what's the type?
Speaker 2:what's the movie that could represent that, or just the type of what's your dream?
Speaker 1:Either way. What's the type, what's a movie that could represent or like, what's the dream project? I think for me, anything period I mean we know that Anything period, like I don't even care the era, okay, love that, preferably Not in the 2000s, not in 2000s. That's very modern for her. You know that's very modern for me, but like, preferably like 1800s, 1700s yeah, feudalism.
Speaker 2:Yeah, goddamn Another country.
Speaker 1:Sidebar to Gilded Age. Winter sent this like amazing portfolio of these beautiful black people during the Gilded Age Like upper class.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that not like surreal, amazing. Then you feel like you saw some of your ancestors, like it was like, and none of them smile, and she looked it up and it was like, yeah, they wanted people to take them more serious as people of color yeah, at that time versus always being like smiley. I thought no one smiled in that time.
Speaker 1:No, they they were specifically referring to like black people when they take their photos, or they had their portraits done, even if it was soft, it wouldn't be joy, because they didn't want to have that cooling type thing. Who knows, because no one smiled. Even the white joints didn't smile. Maybe when they started doing jerseys in the 70s Possibly. When did we start smiling like that? I don't know, Because even family photos, they wouldn't smile, that's some weird.
Speaker 1:European shit right there. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying, crown, but I have been looking up literature on that era.
Speaker 2:I just want to read more about the families and things of that nature. So Our Kind of People was one of the books that popped up and I have that, but that was more so that was very new. That was like more 19th century.
Speaker 1:I want to go back. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And so there's a couple of families that they mentioned, but I haven't found the right literature. So if you guys know any literature on black families in the Gilded Area, yeah, know any literature on black families in the gilded area?
Speaker 1:yeah, that were, that were well off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not well off, but that were, yeah, like the young lady in the gilded age that her family, her daughter, her dad was a pharmacist, you know. They lived in brooklyn, out of brownstone. They had their own community because it was right before black wall street had had resurrected. So from that well, from them being able, and apparently we had money back then and it was always being circulated within our communities, which is why we was able to stand on our own, and it wasn't until, like they started For a long time yeah.
Speaker 2:Until they started killing off our communities and telling us to integrate, don't we all Very?
Speaker 1:I have this. I have a problem with assimilation.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's. It was detrimental. It was detrimental. We had stood the testament to build and create our own without them. Over and over and over, and they always tell us that.
Speaker 1:You know they always try to build this narrative that we ain't shit and we're lazy, and we're this and we're that and we can't do this and we can't do that. Right, we were doing this shit before. That's why y'all went and destroyed it.
Speaker 2:That's why y'all got Lake Lanier, let's be very clear and they were afraid of that.
Speaker 1:And do it again.
Speaker 2:And do it again, and do it again, and again, and again.
Speaker 1:Did you see that Candace Owens interview on the Breakfast?
Speaker 2:Club On the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1:So high key, I fuck with her High key I fuck with her High key I fuck with.
Speaker 2:Kim.
Speaker 1:Honey, we got into a really big argument about that this morning. Really, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I fuck with her. Like her ideology for who we are as people, it's not far fetched from what I think we are as well.
Speaker 1:Now maybe some of her tactics and who she aligns with may not be in the way that I would do it right, but it's not.
Speaker 2:She's not off, she's not far from from where she needs to be like yeah I, I would think you know, we should probably just take a beat and kind of take some of the bullshit out of it and just listen to what she's saying also a lot of times I haven't listened to it, so I'm not going to state my opinion on that fact.
Speaker 1:A lot of times we have to be able to tell somebody when they're wrong and not agree with them when they're wrong, but then, when they're right, also agree with them when they're right. You know what I'm saying. You have to be like yeah, no, but yes but no, no, no, yes, yes, no, you have to listen, you gotta listen and it's okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to listen. Like, I feel like people Candace, owens, kanye we are so like disinterested as who they are, as people in general, and we hate them so much that we're not even paying attention to what they got going on, what they're actually saying, what they're actually saying and what they're actually saying is truth, it ain't too far it ain't too far from what's up.
Speaker 2:I mean unfortunately, um.
Speaker 2:We are so conditioned to be followers that you can't even adhere to the warnings or the advice of those that's been through the shit to say, hey, let's go this way. You know what I'm saying? What if we try and rethink what they've already programmed you to think? But that's so hard because if you're constantly feeding into the negativity and the bullshit, that's all you're going to receive. It's like telling people over and over yo don't eat McDonald's, it's going to kill you. Mcdonald's is still in business. They still open up new places. Why? Because no one wants to be a believer.
Speaker 1:And people still feeding their children. Yeah, they're babies, that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then you want to say my child don't listen, or my child this, or my child. Well, what you putting into the child's body, yeah, your vessel is what you create.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, yeah, and also it's a learned behavior too. We are so conditioned to be Democrats, oh my God, not to get political. I don't feed into that shit.
Speaker 2:This is a cultural podcast. I like Trump.
Speaker 1:Are we within our range. But yeah, Damn Winter. Okay, say it like you mean. She said not to be political. They all bullshit to me.
Speaker 2:I mean it's, but they are Literally.
Speaker 1:That's what Candace said she was like, listen, like y'all, just it's literally like a. If my mother was a Democrat and my mother's mother was a Democrat and we've been feeding things in, that's all. We know, that all we we just my mama is not. By the way, my mother voted for George Bush. At the end of the day, I do feel like I mean it always comes back to the culture that we're in At the end of the day, I do feel like I mean it always comes back to the culture that we're in At the end of the day, like a free thought, right, you having your own free thought and being able to spark, put that into the world and spark some kind of dialogue, and then being equally able to receive someone else's free thought is, like, super important. Without that we like. Then you end up being like oh, I am because they were and I am because they were, and I am, but ain't nobody ever asked no questions.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I mean it stems back to religion as well. Yeah, if you come up as baptists or whatever else, catholic, whatever it is that your parents taught you, and then, as you go and you study, you learn oh, these, these, there's a different way of thinking, there's a different way of upholding god or faith or your truth, and then you bring it back to the source that told you no, no, no, go this way. Then it's like all up in arms. Yeah, oh my god, you believe in the birds and the bees, or?
Speaker 1:you know the devil got you worship? No, not really. Yeah, you know it's.
Speaker 2:It's the same way. It's just having your own thought process and creating it for self.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see nothing wrong with people going against the prototype and not going against it just because you want to go against some shit, right? No, because you did your research, you studied and it's like, yeah, this don't really make sense to me, so I'm gonna go over here yeah that's very important.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I'm definitely like, when you talk about the religion thing, like that was the big thing for me, like my mother she'd be like you know, I'll say I'm burning some sage. You know I'm just burning some sage and for her she didn't come up with that.
Speaker 2:You know, I was raised in the book we was raised Baptist.
Speaker 1:Okay, period Right, but she would be like you better. Damn pray, I'm like.
Speaker 2:But my baby is a part, you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, but that's the ignorance of it. And so, like you know, for a while she just was like I don't know what she got going on. But I went through my spiritual journey and discovered, you know, like I respect just was like I don't know what she got going on, like is you? But I went through my spiritual journey, journey and discover, you know, like I respect certain parts of how I was raised in terms of the church, but, you know, I see religion as a means of control and just not. You know, I do think that there are some truths there, but there's a lot of truths that were taken out, yeah, and only there for us to be controlled.
Speaker 1:So Shout out to Monique and Zubari Okay, they had my ass At 14, I was reading the Bhagavan Gita, the Torah, the Quran the Bible, all of them, every holy book.
Speaker 2:Good for you. I went to a.
Speaker 1:Jewish Buddhist. Good for you, muslim.
Speaker 2:Christian church.
Speaker 1:And I'd be like, yeah, where are we going to go?
Speaker 2:We're going to go to temple today, cool, we're going to that's great that they were exposed and exposing you early, early, early on.
Speaker 1:They wanted us to find it was more of a learning lesson about less about religion, but more finding the connective tissue between everyone in the world. And like, yeah, okay, this is. You know, you have your pillars, you have your testaments, you have your commandments. It's all the same. You know what I'm saying and I'm not going to tell you. It's all the same, We'll make you read this book and then you'll read this book. You see how they said this way and this, that it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:Literally Over and over I'm teaching. Over and over, I'm teaching my son about chakras. And you know.
Speaker 1:And as I'm teaching him, I'm learning. You know things as well. You know, because some stuff you know the core of or the basis of, but then when you get a little deeper, you're like, oh okay, let me take this up a notch. Yeah, like, because I've already introduced, you know yoga into his life and meditation, because he's a little, he can get like me, you know what I'm saying, right, like he can you know what I mean. So I'm trying to teach him young, like ways to balance your spirit and coping mechanisms and things like that. I'll tell you them shits help. He's gonna be like thank you, mom. When I used to be at, when I was in college, I used to be sitting right there in my room meditating, praying, before I get up.
Speaker 2:I didn't know what a meditation was, I was out here fucking. I was fucking too, but I came back that way, but I meditated first. Was the fucking a part of your meditation? Well, no, but like it can be spiritual, well, what I'm saying? Not in fucking college, not in college. Did you spiritually fucking engage?
Speaker 1:No In the sense of like Hold on.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to.
Speaker 1:No, Like I just need to, Like that became my thing to like.
Speaker 2:You know people do drugs, People do you know people do drugs people?
Speaker 1:that was your vice, that was my bias, but I kept, I kept. You know, I kept. Okay, do what you do their first, their first, their freshman year, all right so?
Speaker 2:keep teaching us how to meditate and that was my coping.
Speaker 1:And then I bitch you got to slow your ass, the fuck down.
Speaker 2:Hold on. I was rooting for a tootin' up in me.
Speaker 1:Y'all don't mind it. This girl said I was meditating, I was fucking. I'm like ooh yeah, Make me feel good in the moment.
Speaker 2:Make me sweat.
Speaker 1:Make me burn up Jesus sweat we ate. Okay, make me burn Jesus Christ. We might have to cut that out, but you know, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I think it's well worth the talking. Yeah, it's great, you know.
Speaker 1:I just think that was a time in my life and I had to learn how to cope. Yeah, what's wrong with it? And so I say all that to say like I'm teaching, trying to teach them healthy ways to cope that deal with spirituality, not necessarily bound to religious beliefs. It's helpful because then you can just find the tools, tap into it, keep pushing. You'd be like my mama did say that one time and then Eventually, it clicks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then, like you said, yes, you was fucking too after you meditate, but you probably you was fucking too after you meditate, but you probably you know the fucking that you were doing.
Speaker 2:Man had a little you know, you know you was being probably a little smart and you was probably being, you know, no, I can't, I can't lie on this podcast my friends will come to me and be like we all be young and dumb.
Speaker 1:So you know it happens great time you live and you learn. But we gonna let go of it's bad habits. I think that's it.
Speaker 2:That was a closer right there.
Speaker 1:That was a closer Way to Brandon. Thank you all for listening. This has been another episode of we Ate Podcast. We've been eating these chips. We've been eating these edibles.
Speaker 2:We had a good time.
Speaker 1:We will see y'all next week. Bye, enjoy.