We're taking a deep dive into the glamorous yet grueling world of film, fashion, and travel. Our hosts, Chic Loren, Winter Alex, Icy Chevelle, Mia Nunnally, and Aziza Duniani share our personal stories from the trenches of the film industry. We candidly discuss the trials we face daily, striking a balance between work-life and self-care in this often harsh environment. Despite it all, we acknowledge the blessing of being able to work in our beloved industry after a long hiatus.
The episode gets steamy as we draw the veil off recent controversies surrounding the Balenciaga show. We question their seeming lack of responsibility towards past distasteful advertising campaigns and express our opinions over their questionable show choices.
We also take time to acknowledge the hard work and individual accomplishments of everyone involved in our creative endeavors, including the contributions of The Color purple assistant designer Icy White. So plug in those earphones, join the discussion, and soak up the shared wisdom.
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Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
We're taking a deep dive into the glamorous yet grueling world of film, fashion, and travel. Our hosts, Chic Loren, Winter Alex, Icy Chevelle, Mia Nunnally, and Aziza Duniani share our personal stories from the trenches of the film industry. We candidly discuss the trials we face daily, striking a balance between work-life and self-care in this often harsh environment. Despite it all, we acknowledge the blessing of being able to work in our beloved industry after a long hiatus.
The episode gets steamy as we draw the veil off recent controversies surrounding the Balenciaga show. We question their seeming lack of responsibility towards past distasteful advertising campaigns and express our opinions over their questionable show choices.
We also take time to acknowledge the hard work and individual accomplishments of everyone involved in our creative endeavors, including the contributions of The Color purple assistant designer Icy White. So plug in those earphones, join the discussion, and soak up the shared wisdom.
Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
Credit and special thanks goes to:
Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
What's up y'all? This is Shee Gloren, style and Music Creative, and welcome to We8. We're spilling the tea on all things fashion, film and television, giving you an exclusive peek into our perspective on style and design. Good morning, this is Winter Alex, owner of the Manico. Stylist, interior designer and costume designer to all. Hi, I'm Isi Chevelle, costume designer, event producer and all around dot connector. I'm Mia Nunneli, costume designer and creative director. Good morning y'all. This is Isi Zeduniani. I am a assistant costume designer, host and producer of the We8 podcast.
Speaker 1:I know it's been a couple weeks, but we back for another episode of We8 podcast. The girls are back from their vacations, holidays, all of the things we not we going with the flow on this one, honestly, cause we ain't talked in so long and I feel like, yeah, keke, our chats have been dry. I don't like this for y'all us. I don't either. It really makes me anxious. You know what it is. We got out of our ladies of leisure soft girl Eric for the strike and now it's down to what work. Yeah, especially me and Isi. I don't know about y'all, but we. Truth is I'm tired. Yeah, yeah, isi sent the message and said they got y'all working. Huh, oh, understatement For those of y'all that are not in our film industry.
Speaker 1:Our industry is toxic as fuck in my opinion. I was starting off, man. It is why I'm like, come on now, it's hard to navigate. I guess it would be a better phrase Okay, y'all been cute, but it is, it's toxic. The work life balance is definitely. The work is terrible. Like y'all can barely send a text message. No, and that's the y'all. The majority of our communications, before we talk in this podcast, our text message is, and we have not had that kind of dialogue on it. We talk every single day in a group messages before Now it's giving real high and dry. Like we barely even know these people.
Speaker 1:Like we showed up to work, like hey, y'all, hey, coworkers, it's very much so. Whoever or whatever is in front of your face and I have to be intentional about checking out like oh shoot, I got a kid, is she home? Did she eat? Yeah, did she get a bath? That's not natural, it's not, but it's, you know, outside of our industry. It's just working parents period, who are in what's it called type jobs, like demanding jobs, like I can only imagine. Like you know, is similar things for Executives, executives who are flying here and there. You know doctors or medical people who are gone, working shift type jobs, people who work nights all the time, because in your search, oh yeah, I think our jobs are equivalent to those people. Like it very much so is.
Speaker 1:And for reference, like for this week, we just started shooting. During prep, we were working, I say, eight to maybe nine PM or shooting. I'm in at six 30 and not leaving until midnight to be back at six 30 in the morning, which is like it's unnatural, even if you have like a relationship. Me and my man work in the same industry, we work in the same building, okay, and we still be like, oh hey, let me just go to sleep, let me sit in the car for 35 minutes, just so I can have a second to like even recoup myself before I even get back into the house, which I'm just going to go to sleep because I got to be up in two hours. That's a lot, a lot, but also a blessing to be working Yep, I'm not going to sidetrack that or sidestep that experience, because at the end of the day, we wasn't working for a long, long time, hello, and we was definitely able to pour into ourselves in that time, which I appreciate, and was able to refocus our energy. But at the same time, it's like whoo, I guess my thing is oh, I'm sorry. I guess my thing is why can't we do both at the same time, are we not? Mm-hmm, we are Well when you're, when you are working, it is very difficult to pour into yourself, maintain relationships and pour into yourself. Yeah, I do that every night. I still connect to yo.
Speaker 1:The fact that you get in tubs, it'd be like one. You make it a point to getting this up every night. Yeah, that's where I literally sit, in the tub. The water get cold. I had more hot water. I sit there longer. It'd be like two hours. I'm just being there because I also there's this weird thing about like your body is so tired but you also are so wired that you can't even go to sleep. So I will be exhausted and like damn, I'm ready to go to sleep but my body has to like shut down and that takes a while. So I sit in that tub.
Speaker 1:I think taking a bath is a lost leisure. Yeah, we should focus more on it. Yep, so y'all don't bathe. Yes, yes, but not as often as we should. Yeah, I hop in. Getting bath time is like a Sunday. I got my nails done, I did a wax, we ate good and now I can just sit in the bathtub with a candle on a book and just like sit for a second.
Speaker 1:But, honestly, the fact that I have to like clean the bathtub before, clean the bathtub after all of the things, take a shower when you get out of the bath, take a shower after the bath. I like taking it before the bath. Yeah, so you have to do to wash the dirt off. No, maybe that's smarter before, so that you don't wash the dirt off. Yeah, ok, and then you soak. And then you soak Because you're clean. That makes sense. But you still know, I didn't mind the opposite. Yeah, I had to mind, because even when you soak it's, it's splashed, it's going to always be dirt. You know, I think Would you then bathe first? I mean you didn't shower Because you need to exfoliate, because you need to exfoliate, like the exfoliation. So if you soak, so like when you go to Jeju or Spiland or whatever they tell you, get in that thing and soak for a while and then come and get the scrub, because then you can get more layers. Oh, you mean the disc, ew, that means not the dirt. That's real gross.
Speaker 1:High level topic that I was thinking about was where taking it to the streets goes wrong. Just because the Balenciaga show, I hated it. It just was not tasteful to me. I mean, I, creatively, in concept is cool, it was, you know, but and I guess it didn't need to be tasteful, but it was just like I don't get it. It's like they're trying to do that. Margella is going all over again. I think In the park I'll go ahead.
Speaker 1:I didn't, like I didn't see the hype of Cardi walking. She looked uncomfortable to me, yeah, and she was just holding on for dear life to this fur. I feel bad for them because a lot of these people wear these heels and these looks from the car to the inside. You know what I'm saying. They're not walking on. Even the models. Like it's hard for a lot of these models to even walk on a flat fronted runway, let alone on a cobblestone on the street. That they tend to do in, however many years, like you know what I'm saying. And a lot of these place these companies, if you're not a shoe company, shoes not good. You know what I'm saying. They're not comfortable to walk in. They not, it is just not it.
Speaker 1:So the crazy thing about so a dimna? The creative director for Balenciaga is so out of everyone's reach that we don't know what he's thinking, and he doesn't do many interviews. I'm always very hesitant to be like oh, this was trash, because I felt like there was some meaning behind the show, like he definitely was making fun of something and someone some place. He said that LA is one of his favorite places to be, hence the era one reference and whatnot and being in LA. But I thought the moments that I enjoyed were the gowns. I mean, especially the white one with the funnel neck at the very end, and it was like we're trying to pull it up. So I'm like, when does somebody pull this show up for Icy? I like that look.
Speaker 1:The velour suit, of course, is going to be back Like that. I mean, some of us are old enough to remember Juicy Couture, right, but just already made a comeback. I got a set. Didn't Forever 21 start selling it? I know, but possibly. But remember, like Pelé-Pelé was in that world, like the velour, the rockerware was a big one. It made your booty look good too, it did. I was with the Pelé-Pelé. I had one Sporty, I think. What's that brand? Sporty and Rich, sporty, rich. Anyway, they have one that I really want. It's green, it's hot, I love it, but I don't know. I thought there was some good moments, like those oversized sneakers.
Speaker 1:Everything seems so bombastic, but I feel like he's trolling A little bit. He's doing it on purpose. I mean even that towel skirt. The towel skirt is kind of like the towel skirt. You know what it reminds me of? Off-white and Virgil and his market. You know, because Off-White was originally like more of a marketing thing, like a ode to engineering and marketing and that kind of world. That's kind of what it reminds me of, like Kanye with the trash bags at Gap. You know what I'm saying? In that world of social commentary without commentary.
Speaker 1:But, like you said, if Demna's not actually present and we're not seeing a trajectory of where his mind is going, then we just get these spurts of creativity and then we're like well, what are you trying to say? Right, it's like can you explain yourself? Like, because if you explain yourself, then maybe I'll understand where we're going first. And like what are we doing? Yeah, I don't know. It's the end of the day, fashion is an art form and he's speaking to his art. I just don't know what he's saying.
Speaker 1:But I do feel, like didn't we skip over the whole? Like there was a controversy with this brand that we didn't really discuss at all and we're still upholding them? The whole thing with the child and the ads, like where's the advocation for that? Are we just going to ignore the fact that that's an issue? And is this the? I want you to ignore it? Pursuit, like you know what I'm saying. It's like that's why I saw the propaganda, that's why this is the oversized shoes, that's why we got it's very celebrity heavy, like we got Kim and Sexy Red taking photos together Because, oh my god, it's the thing in there to it. But aren't they fucked up for real? Yeah, yeah, no, and that is a big thing. Where is that dialogue? Like that's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1:Like how are we still and let's be clear, I like Balenciaga I got a few of their bags in my cart Ain't bought them yet, because I'm like they ain't fucking with you. That ain't no thing. Yeah, how do we feel? What are they doing with kids? Because, again, it was the yeah, it was a campaign. It was a campaign that was like in horrible taste. Yeah, with children. They had like BDSM sex toys on the set While the kids are like modeling. Even the paperwork Wasn't there like paperwork on the desk that was from like basically cases for pedophiles on the table. But then there were like kids, it's like children, and it just was playing with the. You don't play dark side, you don't play. We ain't forgot like. You know what I'm saying. It's further in back tastes.
Speaker 1:Also these I think it's hilarious how they have these body suits with these big ass Clown boots like the shoes I think are dope, but then Any ankles with these. It's like what is? I mean, I'm not mad at the oversized Shoulders, you know, I gotta think for shoulders in the 80s, but you know who did that better? Luar, and and you say laura, they do a great job at it. It's not so Costume or cartoony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, mickey, yeah, I don't know, I just I like it's giving you a wedding gown even though you got married already. Yeah, I mean, you know that reminds me of coming out of. I like that, like. But that would be the old day though Tilda's sweating with wear the sweat and wear that and some fantastic Androgynous. Yes, yes, like that makes sense. But do you want to be here or not Coming in here looking like Somebody from the Adams family?
Speaker 1:Yo, that's exactly what it looks like. Oh, if we saw these bitches down and headed down the rump like on the street, like this, we'd be like you know, I see where they're going with it creatively, but I don't know if it's really connected. It reminds me those ugly boots. I remember when Sarah had those ugly mamas. They're big, yeah, but those are great. Those are enough was about to pull them out but then it rained today, yeah, oh, with the heel. I don't got a heel here like these lamb Skin slouch like a little bit. They're huge, they're just massive boots and they're all black. They look like banks but in boots. Oh, yeah, I want to see that. Bring that out. They're super cute. You know what that makes me. That makes sense. That makes sense in so many ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not making Right here To do like this. Yeah, what's our ill fitting? It just it just wasn't. It's not the move. No, I think this is the silhouette that is like trending right now. Someone was walking down the street recently with this on yeah, I saw it in New York Street something. Yeah, that site that I like like jacket type thing that Averett's used to make it with the orange this never went away. This is like, yeah, it's really just sizing. So, like you got Loewe, loire, like all these different companies are like overly Extending their sizes to go back, it's really, we're bored. Yeah, I mean everyone's bored, everyone's, including the designers. They're trying to do something different. Yeah, them, that's doing, yeah, yeah. Also that it's funny that now we're seeing this On the street moment when, like two weeks ago, mia is like, oh, demnissen, in the crowd at home it was doing and literally was lurking Mm-hmm, she got you.
Speaker 1:How was your birthday? It was great. Yeah, how's Columbia? It was great, it was great. It's a beautiful place, lots of people that most multicultural. The beautiful place culturally had great food, fantastic, fantastic. Ten out of motherfucking. The seafood was me, it ain't, it ain't miss. I Want to say just about every place.
Speaker 1:The only time we didn't have good food that they got them gastropub, that was. So my food was good. Oh, I didn't eat, I didn't eat. I ate some of their food. I didn't eat from there. No, I did not.
Speaker 1:That we were like y'all, eating was so abundant there. It was a moment. I had to pause. You know what I did. My tacos were good, oh yeah, we're y'all going. Which y'all going? Is that why? Cuz? Y'all just know we were chill Like the man. Our main thing was eating great food, told you.
Speaker 1:And, and in beach, like that's right drink. Let me pull up somewhere where it's a beach. It was like one of my birthday dinner nights and I put heels on and that was not the move, like a little skinny still that. That ain't it. Yo, I don't cobblestone streets. Let me tell you, anytime you go to the Caribbean, he'll, like Shake is petite, yeah, so you know I, he was always great to elevate. Sit you up, yeah, yeah, and I feel like it was. It was one of those things. Like I had this yellow jumpsuit and it wouldn't have looked great If it was. Yeah, yeah, it was. Now.
Speaker 1:Sometimes you do need to heal to get up there. You gotta suffer sometimes. You know, just a little bit. Passion is pain at times To get the lumps and get the look off Just a little bit. But that Get the look off. Yo, come with me.
Speaker 1:But a bitch had a great time. I know, that's right. That's what y'all was looking for. Y'all got what you wanted Me. It's Wednesday. I'm trying to live vicariously for y'all cause my ass was sitting here cold. Yeah, yeah, I had a great time. I was ready to go home. I was away from my house for too long. I didn't realize that these trips were back to back, like from being in the mountains to going to. I did not realize that until I was in it. I was like, oh shit, don't get me to be away from my crib for a while. So at some point I was like I'm ready to go home. Yeah, but other than that, it was. I had a fantastic time. How were the people? They were great. No, what did you go say? They were great. So it's so cold, they're annoying.
Speaker 1:Let me hold on before we say that Colombia, innocent, we in context, there is a third world country and we have first world. We have to remember that and we have these first world issues or whatever. But it is. There was a lot of street begging, but you know, when you go to these third world countries, you're going to see that you always, and this is how they make a living. Yeah, you know. So it was hey, lady, hey lady, hey lady, hey lady. Yeah, you, my color, my color, my color, that was their thing, my color, that was their thing. But they broke. Yeah, and I want to.
Speaker 1:You know, we got to be sensitive to. I mean, you see yourself over there all day. It's a lot of beautiful melanated murals of like people with women of color, black women everywhere, and I and I hate but we were safe, we were, we were very safe. We were safe. I know people, everybody is like oh my God, were y'all okay? We were fine. We were fine Because of where we were. Our location was perfect. All we had to do was walk out the door and we were in the mix. Oh, okay, and we were right in the square, the pocket in the square. We were like, and walking distance to any restaurants. It didn't take long to walk over to Jetsimani, like. It was a great spot where we were. I hate that.
Speaker 1:The Podarx skin women there felt like they had to dress up as Ancient mommas. Yeah, like, that's what we call it, right, ancient mommas. But it's the oh with the, with the, the fruit of the flowers, the fruit women. Yeah, and it's like, and I get it. I no, I get the. They do it because it's like okay, I have the look I'ma do it Cause that's what I have to do. But also the way they celebrate black women is different, so we're referencing it. So, even like Mammy right, she was doing it because that's just what the way she, her aesthetic was based off of like what she had to do.
Speaker 1:You rocked your hair because of like turban laws, you couldn't show your hair legally, like in a lot of places Louisiana if you were showing your hair actually a little history lesson the white women in Louisiana they was like these black women need to wrap their hair up, cause these black women was really taking they men and walking around with jewels and hair and beautiful you know what I'm saying All their glory, and the white women created these turban laws or enforced these turban laws to basically like these black women showing their hair. You beat their ass, right, yeah, it's a thing so like in the United States a lot that we already have that perspective of who the Mammy Mammy was because of like the infrastructure that was laid in place. But then, even if you go to like a Cuba or these were the, the perspective of who that woman was is something totally different, even though the aesthetic is the same. You know what I'm saying. Like I remember when we went to Cuba, everybody was like you, look like the original Cuban woman. And I have all these little pictures of these beautiful chocolate women with their hair wrapped up, and even the women who were like out in the streets they had these beautiful gowns and multiple colors and, you know, their hair was wrapped up with the basket. But it was a different. I think it is valid because that is what you know in our nature and what we've seen and what is true to our history, that that's a fact. You know what I'm saying. She Mammy over here and y'all have disrespected her so long, but then over there it's a whole different perspective of who that woman was and you know what. Maybe I could have taken a history lesson because they had, you know, the black tours and kind of look to delve into the black culture. But I guess for me I was in the space work in that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, not for the turn up, not for the turn up. Like, I can respect it and I respect the people there, like, and I was telling them I was like, we're everywhere, yeah, oh, yeah, and the lighter skin Colombian women were on the streets Selling pussy. Selling pussy For sure. So I mean, they was definitely soliciting pussy over there.
Speaker 1:Okay, we learned about something called the passport broves. Have y'all heard of the passport broves? Oh, I see you're familiar. Tell me what you know. Tell me what you know about the passport broves. We went out. I mean, it's just a good location for tourism, prostitution, prostitution, if you will. Oh, so passport broves. So the passport broves are a group of men who go to these third world countries and take their choice of whatever girl they would like and buy them and either bring them back with them and make them their wives or just trick off on them while they're in their native land. I know somebody who's got a wife over there. Yeah, yeah, look, we got one over here too. Yeah, I definitely know a couple of my a colorful Howard folks who took some trips. It was a big bustle of time where all of these Howard men was like we going to Columbia in groups.
Speaker 1:I said y'all over there buying pussy. So he was my man. Never let your man say he going to DR to play golf, right, is that what they say? So that's what I was about to say, though, but do you know, they have really great golf courses. They do have good golf courses, though, are you serious? No, they do have good golf courses. We got a girlfriend who like deep dive into it. She met a whole group on her way back home and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 1:And listen, I can't say that because my man's from DR. So Please love you, hazel and I've been going to golf courses. Apparently, he is not a passport broker. Yeah, and my man, I don't mind him traveling to these three. I don't. I'm not one of those you can't go. He wasn't a. No, oh no, please travel, I did. Is Chayn all? I mean? My husband knows that. Travel and go play golf.
Speaker 1:No, I ain't saying all that. I'm saying I'm not the type of woman to be like you can't go nowhere Like I'm like I can go to Miami. Hello, I'm like I can't go get some pussy there. So, like, what is this? Get some dogs to the quick trip on North Avenue and get the pussy. Yeah, yeah, if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it. Now, what I got a problem with? Don't be praying for that shit. You spending money there. They could be like you know what I mean. Listen, I love it. It's a pussy. You can pay for it in the house. It's a pussy. If there's a deficit somewhere, hey, baby, don't do that. Don't do that. Then we got problems. Run that money over here. I love this pussy in that house. You can pay for it. That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Now you know somebody who got two wives. Huh, wait, we're going to move on. We'll get somebody listening and try to put one plus one to get. That's so great. But you know the child too. I think he has a child. Well, I'm sure that I'm surprised. I would have thought you would have said child first, as opposed to the whole thing. So, wives, that's a wife over there, but a wife over there in that country and the wife over here in this country. A third of what a wife over here would call Right, and she's probably living grand, not cost. Well, no, no, I'm saying like for him to pay for it Home. Yeah, to live Child care. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Groceries, this is different over there, but I will say for sure, like Cartagena's, where we were, is a beautiful space. It was an experience. It ain't nothing like the Caribbean, let me tell you. It's a story to be told. We're going to get back.
Speaker 1:I didn't even feel like I was in the Caribbean. That's not my twist, right? Why not? I guess because we wasn't by the ocean. And then I mean we were, but we were like inside the wall. The water at Playa Blanca was beautiful because of who we were with.
Speaker 1:They wanted to pull all their people in and I just feel like I didn't get a chance to relax the way I wanted to. It's like oh, come over here. Oh, they give you massage. Oh, you do this, you do the M like yo, I don't need all that. Yeah, I even told them. I was like listen, it's my birthday, I'm going to have a spiritual moment in the water. Leave me alone, excuse me. And I had to go on and swim away and then, shortly after, the food was ready. So it's just like and then you don't want to be out too late, because it gets dark there, I feel like earlier than here, around five or so.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's a winter. Technically it is. It's a winter there, even though it's like yeah, it was hot as hell and we're on the same standard time. Yeah, so that means it's about to shine. I've been wondering if that's the case. Like it, you know, when we spring back like are we Same? They don't do the same. Yeah, the only place who don't it's like Asia. They really don't fuck with the like.
Speaker 1:Fall back, spring for, yeah, trump got rid of it, lobby to get. He was like I don't understand why we are doing this. It's an antiquated thing. My god, I'm making sense sometimes. I know I don't want to sound like a trump supporter, but Maybe make a sense. No, however, I don't understand what I don't understand. Well, I'll say this there are very little that, as far as presidential, I support. Yeah, because I mean, well, biden did forgive some more money. You'll get a support out of me if it's mine. The thing is he wouldn't get that money from me. You know what? Yeah, he did another like 15 billion. I think they just passed it. I mean, they've never gotten that money back from me anyway, so go on and forgive it. I just think that it'd be given defer. Yeah, oh, I didn't see is probably the least tapped in that I've been in a long time. I would say no, I would say I was more tapped into trump, just because it was always shenanigans.
Speaker 1:Joe Biden, kamala Harris is such. I mean I have no. First of all, my man is asleep, let's just be like. I mean, I got grandparents she's great grandparents in his, in his peer group. You know, I'm saying Jimmy Carter, uh, what's his name? Well, he look like I mean they probably just clones. Oh, a girl, not, they come time wrong.
Speaker 1:I think they do have plans of Biden, because he out here looking wild no, he's just. Oh. And Kamala doesn't have a voice. I don't know what she's there for. They pull her up when, when they feel like they should. You know, I never was here for her, ever. I just felt like she was. So who's running that? She's trump.
Speaker 1:I think he might win. I'm mad. I'm mad. If you do, I'm gonna be. My Texas is all right.
Speaker 1:So is Biden. At least we know who your dickhead don't give a fuck, I know all these things is dickheads. So it's not really. I can't validate that. We can't validate that. I can't validate that at all. Biden is an undercover dickhead and we like the ones that we get enough.
Speaker 1:Biden is sleep, keep it real, and it gets sleep at the wheel. I seen him say hello to nobody. He was a hello. She had no ghost. It was Casper. I have many times, as he fell, put grandpa in the house. Y'all can't stop. He's our elderly. That's the point. Not he's our elderly, he's the leader of the free world, exactly no, we need goddamn captain America in his bitch. Okay, okay, not, uh, yeah, we don't need no man falling over every chance he get. Not, the trump is only two years.
Speaker 1:I'ma just be a black face and not and not be about the black. Chop all this fuck too. I'll give you somebody who's in what's the earliest 35. You could be a president. Give me somebody 30 In a curve. Baby boomers Very around. I'm getting close to tapping out the boomer effect. No, but they.
Speaker 1:My great-grandmother is 101. She called me yesterday for some groceries. I love you. She ain't gonna. Grandma, your great-grandmother, I love that lady. I'm special. No, but then my other great grandma is 98. So then Teresa's grandma was 100, and so we love them. These are beautiful black queens. Yo, we want them around. I'm so happy that they're around and the fact that they just Are being experienced and, like Teresa's grandmother, seems very like she, like I never met her, but when she used to talk about her like Very vivid, you know what I'm saying and I love that Because you can get so much, so many stories. No, my great-grandmother ain't giving no stories to nobody.
Speaker 1:We talked about this. For that that I found uh, you told my mom that I looked up her. Uh, oh no, I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm like why the hell you got her looking at my stuff? I'm like I might be telling her something new. You know what I'm saying, but shout out to icy, because she definitely found out who my great-great-grandfather was. You and you went down that rubber horse. I know that. I know that. She said wait, where did she find everything? I said, oh, I just need to talk to her sister so I can piece. I see the genealogist. Yo, I ain't that familiar with it. I need to track my lineage. I see the C-I-F-B-I-C-I-A who you mean. You start your own agency. People would trust you to find their lineage. I would trust you. I would trust you with my DNA. I need to let her know what happened to my grandmother. Oh, wait, okay. So follow up to dna conversation, because we're talking about all this.
Speaker 1:Your mama, how was Africa for your mom? Oh, shit, uh-huh. Can I get a brief? I don't tap out. It was good, I mean shit.
Speaker 1:She got back from Africa, shaved her head, love it, you know, and she looks great. So tell me about the shaving the head, mia. So this was like all of a sudden. So my mother has alopecia, oh, yeah, yeah. So she has some balding in the top of her head, ok, and she's always wanted to shave it. I don't think it was, I think I don't know if it was Africa, I think it probably was the Boots, though, you know, it might be Maybe. She saw other women in her tribe and was like I'm just going to do it, you should ask her. She said there was a woman on the trip with her who had a shaved head, but in terms of African women though, but another woman. So, yeah, she shaved her head. She looks great. I got to see her. I haven't seen her. She looks fresh. Oh, you got to go see my mama. I got to see my mama. Yeah, you need to see your mother. She looked beautiful. That picture, yeah, yeah, I want to go.
Speaker 1:Where are we going next? Oh, where are we going, and is it going to be a group field trip? No, it's going to be a week A trip. No, we should. Yeah, I turned 30 in April. Shut the fuck up, girl. Shut up. Don't say that. No more in the screen for OK, why, I think that's already 30. Well, we got some time on you. Yeah, damn, I turned 30 in April and I'm doing a. Me and my homegirls are doing a 30 plus one group. You know, group trip not next year, but the year after, because everybody would have turned 30 at that point. Ok, but you know, I still could do a little cute little trip a little quick.
Speaker 1:No, we love Top five. What's on your list? Oh, top five girl, it's giving Tanzania. Ok, it's about Tabali. You got to start saving now. You need to stay to lose. No, no, that's my 30. That's my 30 plus one trip.
Speaker 1:I'm going to do that because that's something big but close. We can do some close. We can do like Turks, we can do like. You know what I'm saying. I want to do Martinique, because I see that she's going to be OK. Let's go there. You know what I'm saying. She been there, I see been there. That's where I'm retiring. Ok, unless you want to go, I've never been there. I'm down, I'm Martinique.
Speaker 1:Y'all got to know how to speak French, though, because they ain't know. Ok, so let's say that. Just be Azizah. So on your trip, I felt like you're just where I felt like a kid I should have been. I just feel like I should be first in Spanish. We do like that.
Speaker 1:As Americans, we are very conceited. We don't really know the languages, because the problem is you, as Americans, people just expect. Well, you need to learn the language which is ignorant as well, because nobody else is speaking it like that Exactly. So I feel like when you go to these different countries and islands, you need to learn. You need to learn how. You need to learn the basics. You know what I'm saying, or at least attempt. We over here, google translate.
Speaker 1:Like a mother, we had the sweetest housekeeper at our Airbnb. Her name was Pauline Jolene Arlene Arlene. Did you say Jolene Jolene, jolene? That lady, there was Arlene Arlene and I was calling the Arlis. Oh my God, that's some country shit right there. Arlis, it's Gorska, gorska, gorska. She was in there with y'all. No, she came every morning. Yeah, she made us breakfast. She didn't speak any English at all. It was very sweet. She was a black one. We had fresh papaya, like fruit of the land. Yeah, like, oh gosh, she made us cafe, nice coffee. That makes me excited.
Speaker 1:I'm really over a Spanish speaking country. I mean don't. Yeah, there's back story, yeah, so, but, but y'all are making one another down. No, no, no, no. But I definitely want to. The Columbia, yeah, that should be on y'all. Yeah, enjoy that. And I hear Medellin, medellin, I hear great things. But, yeah, you and Jesus, yeah, definitely go, that's how I'm going. My man, yeah, it's definitely a good place for you and your man, oh my God. So then let's make it back.
Speaker 1:Trip, yeah, what a couple trip, what A couple trip. Yeah, let me tell you, when I go to Spanish speaking country you know, we talked about this, we did, and it was like a couple trip Because it gives you the opportunity to have, like the men can break away and do their thing or do nothing, and they do not go to, while we can go out and do our thing. But then when there are moments that you like, dang, cause I've been on trips, let's go to dinner. Right, I've been on trips like damn, which Christmas here? Like, because it feels like a couple moment versus like.
Speaker 1:So me and my friends oh Lord, be all listening to this, sorry, d and Raina, we're planning, not naming them, we're planning something for um, we're all having milestone birthdays coming up in the next year, two years, and they're like, well, let's just do something. 2024. Our birthdays are all spread apart Mine is April, um, the other one is August, the other one is October. So we said maybe May of next year we go somewhere, um, and we so far is Zuma, which is has been on my bucket list for years and behind the Bahamas. I was supposed to go there. Yeah, I've, I've had a couple of times I was supposed to go, yep, swimming with the pigs, so that's our front runner right now.
Speaker 1:And I was just telling Chris last night I was like I think I'm going to say something because it's Zuma doesn't have a night life scene, it doesn't have. Um, you still have to go to Nassau, you can't just go to Xuma. Yeah, well, that's not even close, it's like a couple of hours. Yeah, it's not even close enough to like once you go to Xuma, xuma is very, very small and it's still very, very light, it's not. There's no element of turn up and all of that or whatever. It's really like I came here to unwind, relax and just chill.
Speaker 1:And I was telling Chris last night like I don't want to do that with a girls trip, like if I go to a girls trip. I want somewhere with, like, nightlife. I'm a torque on the local, I'm going to have some fun, I'm going to do, you know, like that type of thing. I don't want to sit around and relax and unwind with a bunch of chicks. I want to like go somewhere and have the option and the ability to be, to have nightlife. So I was like Xuma is just very sleepy, very chill, and it feels like a like me and my man thing. So it almost feels like a self care type of retreat. But even me and my man, I want to go out and do stuff. Yeah Me, we've done the sleeping ones.
Speaker 1:And we was like this, ain't it? You got some age difference. So, yes, you would. Oh, okay, touche, I don't know, I think I will not.
Speaker 1:I need an adventure. We can lay around options. You could always lay down no, no, no, no, no, no. I need an adventure. I need an adventure Absolutely. I need an adventure. I can't sit around.
Speaker 1:When you say an adventure, be specific. She may like well, we have horseback riding. No, I got you. You're trying to be outside to the club. I know you lying or snorkeling, but she doesn't snorkel. But you don't know. I mean, club is just a thing, you know. But there are other things, outside Options. Yeah, and I don't want to sit in the house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when we went to Costa Rica, we went to Costa Rica. I mean, we do that at the house, we do that. I'm doing it. As soon as I leave here, we're going to sit around the house and look at each other, and we could do that at home. And we could do that at home. Why wouldn't you explore? Yeah, but you have to pick a destination that offers a little bit of everything, yeah, so, chris, and you have to know personality types. For how do I like to vacation? So what you mean, chris, because you can't vacation? No, I didn't say that. But when, me and Chris, but as a group, whether it's you and your man, whether it's a girl trip, group trip, you have to all kind of know how that person views vacation.
Speaker 1:There are some people who are like I'm trying to escape my nine to five life. I just want to chill. I can lay out on a beach all day and be fine. That's my husband. He just wants to lay out on a beach or lay out at a pool all day, and that's his idea of vacation is relaxing Me. I'm like if I ain't never been here, I'm trying to go see where locals at. I'm trying to go to spice markets yeah, that's my life, I'm trying to and for him it feels like our, our days are so action packed that he doesn't get his rest. So what we do is we trade off, like, okay, this is going to be our go out and do stuff day, then we'll have a day or half day of rest and then we'll go the next day and go out and do stuff. So I have to break it down with him, because if every day you don't have to do that, I tell you where he's to, don't you? Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Because if I because I've already thoroughly researched before we even gone there I have a whole spreadsheet of like oh, these are places we should go, restaurants, how much it costs, at what time it closed, like all that stuff. Oh, already researched, so that when we get there I'm like, let's go. But I have to understand everyone wants something different out of their vacation.
Speaker 1:No-transcript Booty Meat Down, booty Meat Down that's the song that's laid in the background. So, y'all, this is where we, the spot we at, is lit so y'all hear this shit in the background. Yo, it was so chill when me and Hesbos first got here we could hear the sound, but when we put the mic on, the music was like, oh, but you know, after a certain hour the party turned to Booty Meat Down. Now is it Booty Meat or Booty Meat, booty Meat Down. So you know, when you get up on a man and you just go from up to bottom, we don't have to take that lady dance class, that fitness class I'll be setting out.
Speaker 1:It's a the lady, that's the lady, the Turk one, the lady girl. Fitness. Wait, is that the white woman's shield? First of all, wait, time out, time out. I ain't taking no Turk class from the white dude. I can't do them. I'll be, no, not doing it. I'm not supporting cultural appropriation. She could fucking line dance her ass all the way to the fucking moon, but I'm not doing it. Well, it is one that we can. Jacob, a woman of color? Oh no, she could. Just went to one that seemed great. Well, that's not really a Turk class. I need a little. I'll take this all over at.
Speaker 1:Lady Line, lady Line, yes, oh, taylor was on the color purple. Oh right, not bald, short hair. She was on color purple. Oh, this is a great segue. We're not talking about that. That's a great segue.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Icy. She is the assistant costume designer for the color purple Assistant costume designer for the color purple and she will be. She's doing a private showing on the 23rd. If you can get your tickets, you can miss out because that shit sold out two weeks in advance. All that like a fucking yeah. Y'all better look at our Instagram, because that's where we're going to be.
Speaker 1:We'll be in the podcast, we'll be in present, live in present. Ok, congratulations, icy. Yeah, I see, I just got one question. What was it? What was it? That was just so a thing that that now it's like a thing. Like, what do you mean? Like? So we see so many people like coming out saying good job, blah, blah and all this stuff. Like I'm at that post with Marcia. Yeah, marcia, like was it was a difficult project.
Speaker 1:It was difficult. I was going to say this after the movie, after Christmas, we can do a show about color purple, if we. Depending on how you chop this up, I will give a snippet. Well, no, it's just a hard project for all of us and I think I personalized it and made it like. It was hard for me. But in talking to other people, other departments, it was just it felt like almost like a supernatural. Somebody don't want us to make this movie. There's some forces, there's some energy that's like trying to like throw a wrench in every plan every day and it was just very, very difficult. And then I had to step outside of my own like what was me? Like it's hard for me, like no, it's hard for everybody and I realized that more and more. But definitely for me it was the most challenging project to date. It was also the most rewarding to do.
Speaker 1:It was the most rewarding to date but with a lot of the challenges, it kind of was starting to creep on my moment of celebrating it, like I kind of just was like, oh, like it's. It just was starting to leave such a a sour taste in my mouth that I almost let it still like my joy and my celebration of the of the moment. And even when I look at like the trailers and the previews and all of these different things and I see my own personal like touches or designs, yeah, like the contribution that I made to this project, which you know I can see it in the images and I'm like, nah, you did that, you did that and you don't let anyone try to take that moment from you of like you did that. And I think it was like just to turn in the corner on my thoughts and feelings about the project. It's been like what? 18 months or so since we wrapped it, so it's been a minute and I filming it was rough.
Speaker 1:Then there was all the thoughts, feelings after filming it and, like you know, having to work through different issues and stuff post production, and then now the release of it is here and I thought this was just going to be a celebratory moment of just like, oh man, let me just kick my feet up. And then I was like what the hell is happening? So I'm just like, you know, I'm going to just push through, I'm going to celebrate this moment and I just really appreciate, like my friends, colleagues, loved ones, who, family, you know, we when I said I wanted to celebrate this moment, my family and friends got together and they rallied behind the vision I had of like I want to celebrate this moment. So it went from let me just get a block of tickets. You know I wanted to get, like you know, 40, 50 tickets and just reserve that so we could all come and see it together. And then, after talking to AMC theaters, they were like, well, no, the only way to have an advanced screening before Christmas Day is if you buy out a whole theater. So then it was like, oh shoot, I was just trying to get like 40 tickets, I ain't really trying to buy out no theater. And then so I talked to my husband and I was like should we do this? Like because if we don't move the tickets or whatever, and we're left holding the bag for several thousand dollars because you know, you're paying for each individual seat to do a theater buyout. So he was like, you know, let's celebrate you in this moment. So we pulled the trigger on it and I was like, um, I really wanted the seats and stuff to go to like people who actually know me. But then I was like but let's, you know, leave room for people, just seat fillers or people who don't know me personally. But it didn't even get to that. On, like some mass marketing it to the public, my people showed up and they sold that thing out in like four or five days and it went from. Oh, thank you. No, I think it's great that you are celebrating yourself.
Speaker 1:Sometimes we work in this world, like me, and said we work in a very hard environment. So, yeah, well, I'm gonna say hard. I'm gonna say hard, I'm not gonna receive that word of toxic, because at the same day, we get to create for a living and everybody does not get to do that. So I'm gonna say it's very tough and balance is tough. But for you to reserve space and say hi, I'm here, who does do you? Yeah. And to stand on your what was? I needed a what was yeah. But to say also, to stand on your ground and, like you know my Torah sister, I already know how to go To stand in, because sometimes you'd be like if it ain't hitting me too hard or if I could step away and it be easier sometimes. That's what we tend to do because we, like you know I don't want to rough on no feathers. So the fact that you can like stand 10 toes down on exactly what you did she stood on business, come on. You stood on business. She stood on business. You stood on business. Yeah, it's okay, you stood on business. You stood on your art. You stood on your integrity and, at the end of the day, that's the thing that's shown, proves and that's why people showed up. Shit, my family got over 10 tickets. Yeah, my mama called me like my family. My mama called me like yeah, more than 10 tickets. She was like my mom was like I already bought six. I said I bought three. You know what I do. I do wish more of that.
Speaker 1:We as the designers or costumes, whatever, get invited to these actual viewings and these red carpet moments that without us, you don't even have nothing to fucking look at. You understand, they were invited, it's just not here in Atlanta. So what did they get? The invitation to go to LA. Where is that? There you go, okay, but the thing is that was another reason why it was important for me to do this outside of just myself, because even a flyer that says like in honor of I was like but it's not just about me, like it's about the rest of the team, because I literally curated that department, had a hand in hand picking those people in that department. It's not to I, because that's why I got hired, mm-hmm, it's about the celebration for all of us that the industry, to me as point, is so toxic. No, the exploitation. Like you come to Atlanta, you use us for the labor you don't even like give us the opportunity or to celebrate it. Like it's our physical six months of our lives, blood, sweat and tears, day in, day out, the elements, the attitudes, the you know COVID, all of that going on and you can't even, you know, have something reserved for those people. That's local. That's what I'm thinking Like, why was there not a thing?
Speaker 1:And some, you know some productions do do that, like shout out to Black Panther, who you know had Fox Theater and they did a premiere for Black Panther at the Fox Theater, for for Cass and crew. That was the first one, that was the first one that we went to. They called Tyrone did the same thing. Three did, they did. But there should be more. You know, my, my, my comments to producers, studios, like invest back into those people. I mean, I have friends and stuff who saw it. You know, three weeks ago, just on some random V103 advanced screening, you know saying like, yeah, so there is. Like the general public sometimes has more of an access to your work. Yeah, then we do, you know. So I just really, you know, am excited A lot of crew is coming to this event and I just want us all celebrate together. It's not just about me and having that moment for me. It's like we all should be celebrated for the contributions that we did to this project, and if no one else created the space, then I should. I know that. I know that.
Speaker 1:What you gonna wear, yo shit, we can talk about that. What you gonna wear, yeah, step on next, step on next. Okay, also, let me know, because then I'll come in accordance. If you know what the vibe is Purple, you know. You know, I don't even own purple. I don't want to be purple, I'm not a big purple girl, but I think it's like it's royalty. How about that?
Speaker 1:I did see somewhere where they were cream and I can't. I don't know. Everybody had no. Me gusta, please. I don't like that whole. Look at my feet. It's not for her. I said this is a trend, it's not gonna go away. I think that there's a way to do it. I didn't love the way she do. It Was this yeah, and then it was just a massive goal in one spot, and so I'm like, you know, when the break cut out that jersey with the stomach out, she didn't even do that. No me gusta, please, no me gusta, please. I don't think you've done it in a way that I liked it.
Speaker 1:I think that was beautiful when you're pregnant to have the silhouette of the bump. You know, have something that clings to your body or something that you know accentuates your bump, but just to show the bump, just the, you know, I just don't like it, and I also was. You know, physical touches Not my thing, so I also didn't like people to touch my stomach. Let me just say I just want to say to the mass public I've never been pregnant before, but I think it's rude when you just walk up to somebody and touch their belly, even when you know them. I don't know.
Speaker 1:B-sola, chief is my nephew. Okay, I love B-Sola, I love her name and I love my nephew chief. But I ain't holding yet. You know why? Because unless his mama pass him to me, it ain't none of my business. I ain't touch her belly, and that is a beautiful thing. I ain't touch her belly. That is a beautiful thing to reserve that. I didn't ask to hold this baby. You know what I'm saying. I'm a show love until they feel comfortable and his name is chief. Yes, I remember we had a whole thing about this. How old is he now? Five months, I think. Oh, my goodness, I just saw a new picture. Can you show it? Can you show it? They will be at the screen. He is adorable, chief coming to. Of course he is Chief coming to, chief coming to. What day is it 23rd? No, it's not a matter. It's not a matter. We are trying to upgrade to a larger theater. So if that is possible, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I'm excited and I'm glad that we all have a space to celebrate this together. It was. You know, any movie is a collaborative effort. You know, not just collaborator within our individual departments, but just across the board, like there's a whole department that just handles trees and Everybody.
Speaker 1:That moment, because outside of, like your producers, your director, your cast, there are so many people who, without them, the final product wouldn't be what it is, and there are a lot of people who are overlooked post production, of getting their moment to celebrate their contributions. So that's my event producer hat, going on of just wanting to create a space that we can all celebrate this moment Absolutely and in closure. I think every creative should take a moment to sit in their blessings to talk they should about the things that they contributed. Stand 10 toes down integrity wise, about who you are, what you are and what you contributed, and don't let anybody stop your shine, stop your glow. At the end of the day can't nobody do what you do like you do it. You know what I'm saying and that's that. On that, we'll see you next week. Thanks for joining or listening or whatever you're doing, bye.