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What's up y'all? This is Sheik Loren, and welcome to We8. We're spilling a tea on all things fashion, film and television, giving you an exclusive peek into our perspective on style and design. I am your girl, your style creative, and meals are Kriana Wusham. Yau, I know.
Speaker 2:I know, hello everyone, it's Winter. Alex, owner of the Manor Co. Interior designer and costume designer Personal stylist.
Speaker 1:Hello, hello, it's Isi Chevelle, costume designer, event producer and all around professional dot connector.
Speaker 3:I'm the another lady costume designer and creative director.
Speaker 1:Hey y'all, this is your girl, aziza Duniani. I am an assistant costume designer, most of the faceted creative host and producer of this hero podcast, and we are back for another episode of We8, y'all. Good morning, ladies, good morning good morning good morning. So many things have happened this week. Top of the list for us is, you know, sag has now ended the strike, so we'll be heading back to work soon. We got the CFDA awards allegedly CFDA awards. People are working. Shout out to Dio Tima for her win this week or brand for the win.
Speaker 1:Met Gala had their announcement of what their theme will be for 2024, and so we're just gonna get into this conversation surrounding the diaspora and the contributions of black folks to the larger conversation of style, fashion and how it's kind of we're kind of changing the dynamic with these beautiful fabrics, beautiful stories, and black people are really pouring in their creative seasonings to the pot. We are season honey. We definitely are. We was about to talk about this before we started, but Nicki Minaj was just on the cover of Vogue after like what, 15 years in the business and this is her first Vogue cover. I mean, I think it tracks, because she's not. Vogue isn't necessarily her brand, but it's dope to see that she finally got some type of like front page recognition. What do you guys think about the?
Speaker 3:the she look gorgeous.
Speaker 1:She looks great and this is the Nicki I've been waiting for. Huh, this is the refined grown ass, nicki. You know we ain't gotta see. You know all the tits and ass and the all the things you know and listen. I love her tits and I love her ass, but you know what I'm talking about. She's giving fashion taste. I like it. Some taste, that's what I've been wanting for her. Like girl, you are grown now. You are not 20 year old, nicki. You are grown with taste, like baby. This look with this hat and shades and trench coat I didn't see that I'm just gonna go with it.
Speaker 1:I might need to see all the looks, because when I saw them I was like I really like the gold lace floral mesh situation. Doshé and Gabana dress. She looks pretty there. I hate the Chinese tattoo. I'm just gonna say that did not age well the Chinese tattoo on her arm.
Speaker 2:I kind of feel like girl.
Speaker 1:How to make up artists to just go ahead and cover that up. I mean I probably wanted to show it. She probably was like, yeah, show who I am.
Speaker 3:She's Charlie. She is Charlie. I think she. I listened to her interview with Nandi. What's my girl? Chama Nandi the new editor chief at Vogue, british Vogue, and you know she said a lot about what it meant to her to do this and this was the first time. She cried several times doing this photo shoot, how she attributes it a lot to her motherhood and what her three-year-old has done for her and how she hated looking at her skinny self. That kind of was interesting.
Speaker 3:Her skinny self. Her skinny self Before the work. She hated looking at her stuff when she was skinny. So then she said now I kind of like appreciate it. But then I was like, is that just a trend, like because skinny is a trend now it went back from thick and then I was back to skinny because it was a zimpic trend. I think she just grew up.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Because, like the hot girl, when you're young and you're waiting for your body to come in and you're like I get this work done so I could keep up, so I could feel good and do all of the things you know and you got the money so you do it and you sexy, you pop in. But now, like you said, she's a mom and she's like everything is like feeling out and she might be fighting to get her body back to something and it's like what is that thing? And who knows?
Speaker 3:I mean it just might be growing up, you know.
Speaker 1:Because for some women, after you know you get the work done prior to the baby. Then after the baby you see some of the changes in your body, like hips and noose of tits, and sometimes it might You're broader, yeah, why?
Speaker 3:You get sprints in the back. Your shoulders are like broader.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder what that means for how she her crying in the photo shoot. What does that mean for her? Like stylist you know what I'm saying, like the person who gets her dress every day. And if she's looking back at, like the skinny thing right, and they've dressed her in a way that is very like obscure, like she's not. Things are super fitted, they're soft and feminine. They kind of give you this like mystery kind of vibe, especially with that suiting. I wonder how she feels about. She's like yeah, I could play in this, versus just being so exposed on her regular day or when she's getting dressed for a red carpet or whatever the thing is. I wonder how that's just gonna change her dynamic in the real world.
Speaker 1:This photo shoot, you know, I must be honest and say that I think we give her too much credit in terms of maturity, cause she's still being on the internet beefing, she's still be no, no, no. I let y'all talk and give her all her props, and I think that motherhood may have changed us or changed her. It changes us all but I think also it could be a little bit of maturity. Yes, it could also be your body, not the same. So you have to be more demure, you have to be more covered up. You got stretch marks in places now.
Speaker 1:So maybe the whole evolution of her style isn't even like a conscious maturity type of transition.
Speaker 1:It's probably like I have to dress this body that I have post baby and even with nipping and tucking and all of that, some of the aftermath of pregnancy is still gonna show on our bodies after we've carried a child. So I mean I guess I'm fresh off of just hearing Jason Lee he's so messy, but I was just listening to him go in on her about her whole made the stallion thing and her whole plight to stay relevant and that girl in hip hop and I don't follow the beefs and all of that, but from his perception which could be wrong and just his perception it's like she's very much that mean girl who still wants to be the queen and will find any way to kind of, like you know, throw shade on the women who have the spotlight at the moment. So as I was hearing y'all say all of that, I was like I just heard she being, but that might be true, I'm just talking about this, I'm talking about her and the girl, why not?
Speaker 2:she looks great there.
Speaker 1:That's all I said, and I don't think her style has evolved like that, I think in this. I don't know if her style has evolved.
Speaker 2:No, it hasn't. But what I was saying, the style is a vogue. Got her to get it.
Speaker 1:Got her to get it and she looks great. And what I'm saying is this is what I've been wanting to.
Speaker 2:She's still nicky. I've still just on the move of her. She's great. This is what I'm saying. What?
Speaker 1:I'm saying is this is what.
Speaker 1:I've you thought she looked crazy after words. Yeah, damn it. I'm sorry. I've been wanting to see this girl is one of my point. I'm not saying that overall she's evolved, because outside of this vogue shoot we don't see her on a regular basis.
Speaker 1:So I wasn't saying you know this whole like maturity, I wasn't speaking to what's going on with her and other rappers. I was strictly speaking to this fashion, this moment she looks good and, nikki, I want to see more of this from you Every day, all day, refined, looking great, evolved, cause, yeah, like you look good here, and I think this is what I want to see more of. I think I agree with you, sheikah. I think that even her emotion her emotion was in the moment seeing herself like this. So that's what I'm speaking to is like, like you said, in this moment we see her refined and then she probably also saw herself refined and she probably also saw herself, how she her potential of what she could evolve to or whatever it is. And that's why I'm asking, like I don't wonder, how this moment might change or evolve her from here.
Speaker 3:Will she change?
Speaker 1:switch it up from here.
Speaker 3:Or will she take more?
Speaker 1:time to think about it.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Who knows? Okay, so, since we're talking about the Caribbean folks and you're not gonna stay too long on Nikki, since had a, is that how you say it, since Essence, essence, with no.
Speaker 3:E Essence.
Speaker 1:Essence. It's the word, since it's just essence. It's essence but not the foot of black folks. It's the regular for the fashion girls and the people with the pop culture. Had an article about called Jamaica to the World, how Jamaican designers are taking over and they're talking about all of our favorite Afro-Caribbean or Caribbean designers, however you choose to identify Martin Rose, grace Wells-Barner, theo Filio, theo Tima and it was a great article about the like intimacies of the process. What brought some of these designers to kind of stay true to their Caribbean roots. I don't know. It was just a beautiful experience to me and I, or a beautiful happening in the world or shift in pop culture, and I just wanted to see what you all think about this evolution of the black designers. I think it's great that they're getting the exposure because, I mean, there's talent everywhere and there's like very deserving designers that don't get that platform. I think the whole maybe pop cultural shift of even us as African-Americans, of adopting African and Caribbean culture as pop culture.
Speaker 1:You got Afro beats. That's like you know everyone. What did my mama call that the other day? She's like, yeah, that Jamaican music be everywhere. Now I said, ma, that's not Jamaican music. Yeah, it's Jamaican music, I don't know, but anyway. But even you know, afro beats and stuff like that is slowly integrated into our culture and now it's like mainstream, like probably the number one song right now is Tyler Water.
Speaker 2:Twyla, tyler, how you say her name yeah?
Speaker 1:and she's South.
Speaker 3:African.
Speaker 1:So I think it's great that, as we start to have more exposure to these cultures and we now have an appreciation for these cultures, the only thing I will say, when it comes to the European or people who aren't from the diaspora, of incorporating these cultural things into their collections is, I feel like it's cultural appropriation and I learned, and I'm continuing to learn, that there's a lot of relevancy between certain in history behind certain patterns, certain colors. Aziza's mom, who's also my friend. That sounds weird because, like, how am I how friends with both of y'all?
Speaker 1:but anyway shout out to. Monique was brought on. I brought her on to the color purple because we had a lot of. We had a scene that is based in Africa and we had people who were trying to choose and create. You know these looks and what type of cloth and whatever, and Monique was such an asset to the production because she spoke that language. She knew this pattern is something that would be used for someone higher up in you know the chain of command. Or these type of bracelets. You know gold would be reserved for more prominent people would be send. Things like that will be reserved for people under more you know middle-class, lower-class people in the community.
Speaker 1:So I just want to make sure that, as this being widely accepted and adopted by mainstream culture, that they don't appropriate, that they really do the history behind. You know the culture and properly given its respect. So how do you think that they do that? Because if you look at, like Valentino, when they started incorporating color head pieces, jewelry in a certain way that is not traditional to what their brand is, it was very African. You know what I'm saying. But then when you see all of the tailors from the artillery, I come out and they are Italian you know what I'm saying and there's no real black faces making those decisions are helping in the collaboration process. Then how do they do that without being tacky? How do they do that without Hire folks who know what the hell that came from and the history behind it and the and the sacred sea of it.
Speaker 1:You know, like some garments and stuff, like I learned a lot from your mom on that project because she was like this is what they wear for morning. You know, if someone dies in a village they would wear this type of cloth or this particular color. And that's not to say that other cultures can't research and get it right. But if you're going to incorporate or appropriate, depending on how you approach it that culture, hire folks who can come on as consultants that speak that language and know that world and give them exposure or put you know it could be in your visuals, it can be in you know donations, it can be in. We, valentino, went over to Nigeria and hired local talent or whatever I mean. I think that's the safest way for you to like escape accusations of appropriation.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's no easy way to do it. No, especially when you what Because?
Speaker 3:Because a lot of our culture is, has always-.
Speaker 1:It's so intertwined in just the human race in general. But if you I mean the Schiaparelli Fall Winter Couture show 2023, 2024, whatever they literally had designs that you could go on Losa Malimbo website and see those designs on her website.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And it's like-.
Speaker 2:Do you ask permission or did you just take it?
Speaker 1:You know who knows, but her name with no name on there you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:There's no accreditation to her, there's no, no, there's no credit.
Speaker 1:And then also they have like all this big gaudy gold jewelry that's. That is not European baby At all, it's not. You might can say it's Indian, you know what I'm saying but like that's African, even the patterns, the colors. And it was a beautiful collection, like one of my favorite, but I still was like hmm, this, this, this that's the ongoing thing the conglomerates coming in and taking ideas.
Speaker 2:And when Mia spoke about it last episode. That's talking about Balenciaga watching us at home coming Do you understand what. I'm saying, and it's happening right now Kylie just got on blast for copying Yeezy or copying Betsy Johnson for this new Kai line that she dropped, and we all know they're unoriginal, so it's just what they do, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean, I think that speaks to now going back to our designers, our African designers, our Caribbean designers, designers of the diaspora putting one, putting the money back into their countries where they're from, and then, two, being on that mainstream platform is going to eliminate some of that, because you can't steal it if we've already purchased it from the original. You know what I'm saying. Even if you do, we, the people, will start to give that credit where credit is due.
Speaker 3:It's hard. It's such a fine line though. It's such a fine line, though, because the thing is, I feel like almost everything has been done in a sense. Even when you talk vintage, I mean all of us have something on this quote unquote vintage right now. So if costs are I don't know, martine Rose decides to remake this denim that we all have on, then Then it's like well, who is it really credit to be given, or is it just reinvented?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it was to say where I saw something. If I saw something, how do I know? Excuse me, I got this inspiration from some African designer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I think we're talking about or at least I was talking about, like on the nose, like fabrications and prints that you can clearly identify as being African. So Quintet and things like that, not necessarily things that.
Speaker 3:The article discussed like that Jamaica in general has been exploited. Yes, with the colors, like you'll go and hot topic and see about Marley T-shirt all day long, and then that niche that you talked about. What I found interesting about the article, though, was that a lot of these designers that are Jamaican, quote, unquote Jamaican. A lot of them said they were trying to find their roots and they're actually British born, so they did it outside of Diatema or Rachel Scott or Diatema I mean, we all personally. Well, three of us know personally the Ophelia and where he from.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And so I think it's like who are we, who are you, where are you from and how can I get back to that? I think that's what I felt Like. I feel like I need to get back to my roots because I've been there over. I talked about we talked about it last week when my niece going over to Duke and then go back to her roots. It's just an innate connection, connection and feeling that we have as people of color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think, at the end of the day, that's what art's for right, like in every, if you're a painter, if you are a designer, whatever it is, you're medium. It's always to get back to something, or really get back to something, whether it's inside of you, whether it's where you're from, like to find some connective tissue and then put it in the world right.
Speaker 3:So I think that's like that's the only way my mother's on the way to Cameroon tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Shout out to my Cameroonian. Come on, I'm on the way there. I'm about to like get dressed.
Speaker 3:And she felt for years, she felt the need to go back home, quote, unquote, home.
Speaker 1:That's interesting. How does she feel? I mean, I know how she feels, but how, now that she knows, how does she feel about that like connectivity to the continent?
Speaker 3:She feels like she's more complete now, mm, you know it's a completion. So we, especially black Americans and I'm not even gonna say British Americans, because some of them know where they came from in terms of like, I can go back to Nigeria, I can go back to Jamaica or whatever, we can't go back to those places yeah, not for real unless we do our ancestrycom.
Speaker 1:It makes me nervous. What Going back?
Speaker 1:or yeah, because I've always been raised as this black woman, african woman. You know what I'm saying. And as I get older yes, I am that I have those connective tissues also by my leg gang. You know what I'm saying, that my people, that's my tribe. But now that I've, like experienced the world in a different way, I've also I've also made space to be connected to America in a way that is prideful Because of my ancestry right. So I try not to disconnect that because it didn't matter, because then I'm disconnecting all the people that did all this work, all the ancestors to the last seven, eight generations in America who've, like done something to make me be here. But then also, I've also experienced conversations with people of that diaspora who are, like Greenway, african.
Speaker 1:I don't care if you track it back to Cameroon, that don't mean nothing to me, you ain't from here. You know what I'm saying and that's what makes me nervous, because I have the pride. I wanna go back too. I'm trying to see my people and be like yo, 10 generations back in my people. But I be nervous for that one reason. You know what I'm saying Like having pride, and I don't want my pride to get squashed long.
Speaker 3:That's what it is. I feel like most people I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel, like most people I know who have gone back, they were accepted, Like they're like welcome home, like they're glad to see you know that you even took the time to come back home to like remember them and remember your roots, or to even discover it's not remember to discover your roots.
Speaker 1:I've always really wanted to do like a deep dive with like sit down with Henry Lewis Gates and like cause, outside of ancestrycom, which you know can break down everything, I wanna know the stories of a particular ancestor that you can, like you know, track back and say like this person was this thing and like even in my own family history, of going back through the archives a little bit and just seeing like you know, this person had a third grade education or whatever, it just really gives you like context and like man, like that wasn't that long ago, I ain't that removed from family members having a third grade, you know education, and look where I am today and to know that you're standing on the shoulders of them, surviving what they went through for you to be where you are today. So, yeah, I guess for me my experience like just seeing, African and more black designers emerge is great.
Speaker 1:I think we need to see more of it. We've always been amazing creators and I think we definitely need to have that true space to be able to do it in the fashion world. Working on create three, liz Wolf was the costume designer and there was a lot of shout out to her. There was, for that particular movie. There was a moment where it was based in South Africa, so a lot of designers were pulled in as far as fashion designers such as Tabeh Magoo-Goo and Wells Bonner and a bunch of others, a slew of others. So it was really good to be able to kind of touch and feel and see those pieces.
Speaker 1:And Tessa wore a heirloom blouse and it was I think it's pictures of his mom, yeah, like his family. So it's like a really nice blouse and it just speaks to that heritage, knowing yourself and just kind of being able to trace back your bloodline. And so when you speak to that right us being in America not always being able to feel that, I do feel like here in America we were here as well. I speak to that all the time that us people of color were also here ahead of time. Now this world was made up of all of us, and when things broke up we were a little bit everywhere, but it would be amazing to be able to track your roots and kind of find out all the places that you come from without it being this whole like you ain't got a deep dive, all crazy so.
Speaker 1:I'm like it's just yeah like why does it have to be this thing and being able to tap into that culture and to be able to tap into that inspiration, to be able to find these moments for creativity and design and different things like that. So, yeah, I'm curious for specifically for Winter and for Mia, when it comes to styling and designing. I know, Winter, you had that commercial that was like black-owned everything right and what ways do you, or is it even important to and not important to? Like is not, but you know what I'm saying. Do you put this in the fourth thought of your mind when you're talking about, like black designers, African designers, Caribbean, Afro-Caribbean designers, like how do you implement that into your space? Is it like a go-to or are you just like oh, I gotta be super intentional about this.
Speaker 2:I think it's a little bit of both. Like, even as we were designing the show together, we always made sure that we had us somewhere around. So and then we had the opportunity to do the buying all black thing. That was exciting because we were able to pay for their services through a larger conglomerate. You know what I'm saying. So it was like just send us something or we could just buy it and just to support the fact that you're even out here and can get it done. And that was locally and universally. So I think as much as we can show and support, we'll do I think that's like a big fucking deal.
Speaker 2:Like we support the Ophelia from the origin. You know when we had our shop and he was like look at my designs yeah, I understand, and he's like put on a show I love that On us. Like just have at it. And then fast forward to today. He's one of the most well-renowned black designers that you know right now, like his name's popping up all over and who knew that's what all you have to do is just incubate the idea and give it space. So we're always about the space to create more for us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the Ophelia is the first Caribbean designer that. I was able to be like. I think I saw the designs first and was like these designs look real dancehall.
Speaker 2:Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And then when I figured, found out who he was doing some more research, I was like, oh, it's fly. Yeah, you went to.
Speaker 2:Wile Lake. I love that, I love that. There you go y'all. Yeah, I went to Wile Lake, we went to Wile Lake same.
Speaker 1:There's a piece in the article where Rachel Scott says from the men the way they would put on a suit with a mesh merino or in a belt buckle undone. I mean even women. The Jamaican idea of sexy is a strong and powerful and it's not to mirror and she was talking about like what her vision of Jamaican style is, because also they define the difference, they differentiate it between style and fashion and like Caribbean style is more of a thing because access is usually not there.
Speaker 3:So, like.
Speaker 1:I thought that was also interesting because, speaking to Theophilio, his designs are very like sexy you can see through it. It's real short, it's whatever. And, like I said, I referenced Dancehall when I looked at it and I was like where am I wearing this to? Or even when I saw it on Gossip Girl.
Speaker 2:Gossip Girl, gossip Girls. I saw it on Gossip Girl, yes, so I screen shot this. I said I see you, like that was such a good estimate to her, and we have a little chat with Sikina, like it was just like I just got chills just thinking about that.
Speaker 1:It was.
Speaker 2:To see his sketch like 2015,. To see it in 2023, it's like what in the world.
Speaker 3:It's happening. Yeah, he moved to New York too. Just that far.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did no cause he knew that was where he needed to go to get off. Yeah, he did. He could make what he needed to do here shake, so he had to go to New York. He had seen.
Speaker 1:Also shout out Rachel Scott from DLT. When she had her acceptance speech she literally said I had to move to New York. She was like this is where the things get done, like moving to New York changed how much you can put out into production, but one thing I will say about working with the black designers and the largest scale of production.
Speaker 2:I understood like when they get to a certain level of access, then you have to start going through agencies and showrooms and PR firms and that slowed up a lot of us getting the items we needed in time to get the exposure for them to be on, because they're not always well versed in like what we're doing and how we're trying to support them in that way.
Speaker 2:So shout out to y'all, but just make sure you guys keep an ear to what's going on in that production world so we can, like, keep feeding the dream and putting you on screens, on screens, cause that's a thing, yeah, and that's slowed us up, Like we're waiting on confirmations from PR firms but they don't have a sample.
Speaker 2:or they don't have this because you know, or there was one conversation that I'm not going to mention the designer, but they kind of shun on, you know, the smaller projects because they rather be on the box yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like well we have same kids and see, that's where it becomes problematic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so skin phogging, but also those small things.
Speaker 1:If you see a bunch of small things, your eye gets fine tuned to be like what is this thing I keep seeing Exactly? It's not always that big moment that's like holds you tight, but speaking to that production moment, it made me think of Pier Moss and Kirby. That was his fall off.
Speaker 2:He had beautiful shows and then you go online trying to buy his stuff and you're like he didn't have the production behind it, which is crazy because he had a lot of funding behind him.
Speaker 1:You'd think so. Yeah, his page. I don't know he had it and did y'all see that it's gone?
Speaker 3:Did you see the?
Speaker 1:cut Somebody check on. Kirby. But if you saw that cut article, it was very true to what we were thinking. You know what I'm saying when it came to production and all the things we were thinking. Why don't we see the close? Because now people want to support and even if it's like, oh, I can't do mass production, but I can do these small orders, like Winter was saying, to put them in a commercial or whatever it is Like a sample or two.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? Just to highlight what we got. Hey, we're here for y'all. We love y'all just as much as they do, but we really get it. Yeah, we know what you've been through to get here, so say what's up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yo. So when I think of the African influence and just been talking about the diaspora, of all the things, around the world and Isobama called it Jamaican music.
Speaker 2:The Jamaican music. We really hate Jamaican music.
Speaker 1:We tie it back to the Jamaican music Isobama referred it to. We wanted to speak a little bit on Isobama.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we love.
Speaker 1:Isobama, she's fucking around. Yeah, the Afro beats to the world, a Ma Piano to the world. All of the music that Africa has contributed over the years, it is really, really, really taken over. You hear the heavy influence that it now has into today's music across the world. Wizkid Burner Boy, burner Bull, burner Burner Boy, the African giant, davido, davido, oh yeah. And what's the girl named?
Speaker 2:The cute ones, tim Tim and the other one before Tim, twilight. No, no, no, she's been around. She's like the Beyonce of Africa. What's her name?
Speaker 1:Oh my god, yeah, I don't know Name a song.
Speaker 3:I know her name.
Speaker 1:I'm not the Beyoncé in Africa. I know. Nobody know her name.
Speaker 3:What's the girl from?
Speaker 2:before T-Wa Savage T-Wa T-Wa Savage there we go, you know her name T-Wa she's beautiful.
Speaker 1:She's super grown you know, like children Making amazing music. She has this one song called Attention that Went to Put Me On To. That's a little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I advise every lady to listen to that song.
Speaker 1:Attention by T-Wa T-Wa Savage is the shit, along with the others mentioned and so many others that we have not mentioned. You gotta appreciate the vibes and the drums and the sound.
Speaker 3:Just the feeling and goodness of the music.
Speaker 1:Okay, it makes you move. And now guess what?
Speaker 2:It's resonating and charting and pop charts now. I just want you to know like the drums are now inside of stores, you're gonna have to say you can listen and that is what they're looking for. As far as talent, what's picking up right now is Latin music and, like anything from the diaspora.
Speaker 3:Basically is what they're looking for they want that season and
Speaker 1:that sasson that come from us too, that palm oil. We are everywhere.
Speaker 2:I love every one.
Speaker 1:That's who I only listen to. I'm not a whiskey, let me tell you.
Speaker 2:I can listen to albums for albums. Have you seen whiskey before? So we saw him at Roots.
Speaker 1:Did y'all miss it this year, did he never reschedule.
Speaker 2:No, we went to Roots last year.
Speaker 3:He never rescheduled.
Speaker 1:We were supposed to go to the show. Did we buy tickets?
Speaker 3:No, we had a way in. We wanted to get into the spot. We was gonna have a situation.
Speaker 2:I don't know what, but that young man, maybe he got a little siren.
Speaker 1:Any fly, any fly, any fly. A little cute self Love me, some WhizKid. And then when you hear I have been listening to Chris Brown's album it just dropped today.
Speaker 2:That's sensational.
Speaker 1:So it came out of date. He put it out of date earlier.
Speaker 2:He was finding shit on that thing, boy With the tweet Black hair, black hair.
Speaker 1:Did you think Chris Brown is attractive? Why do we ask no?
Speaker 2:Really you smell like a fifth element, when Ruth Swillis was like yes, we love that movie. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Chris Brown WhizKid ain't funny.
Speaker 2:It's Bruno. Bruno is a whole man. He got all the muscles.
Speaker 1:With music. I do love them both, but WhizKid has like a little swag.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he just hit him with it. He just hit him with it.
Speaker 1:It's just a little shoulder. The point is culture of the diaspora, African culture. We love it. Whizkid looked like African young jock and y'all ain't gonna make me change my mind about that. I want you to stay. African young jock. Look at his face. This is African young jock.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is. Look at poor jock. Let me show you what I saw with the Ruth's picnic. Hold on.
Speaker 1:Y'all better, find me a better picture.
Speaker 2:Let me show you what I had at the Ruth's picnic.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something we stay. We stay for that day. Whizkid, because everybody else left things over.
Speaker 2:We didn't even see Mary. I had missed Mary the previous night.
Speaker 3:I was gonna miss nobody else, it's okay.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna get to see Mary one day. We're gonna go to Vegas. Maybe she'll do a show in.
Speaker 1:Vegas. She probably do a residency like us. That makes sense Put out a boot line girl.
Speaker 2:What you wearing, though A thick boot collat. She couldn't walk in her shoes the other night.
Speaker 1:Yo what you having.
Speaker 3:I'm Teterin.
Speaker 1:My girl said I need to change my shoes. But then you saw the greatest of all times, the fashion icon in them slippers. Them time brown slippers.
Speaker 3:She tried to hide them under that split. They should have cut that.
Speaker 2:So they did confirm that they gave her that award because of what she's done on the courts. That's why they gave her that award.
Speaker 1:Her introducing beads.
Speaker 2:Leather All the things that she's done on the court.
Speaker 1:That's why they gave her that award. That was like confusion.
Speaker 3:You talking about the girls? It's a cultural. It speaks to bringing the culture.
Speaker 1:You and me.
Speaker 2:Spill it all. I should use that last week Right back.
Speaker 1:But I feel like it's speaking to the court, bringing in the black culture, bringing in the things that we've seen growing up, and they're really great. She made it for us and I also forgot that she did go to design school. I forgot about that. Oh, she did. Yeah, that's the thing I'm saying. I would love to see her put out an actual.
Speaker 3:Like a sports line.
Speaker 1:She got a sports line out. I thought it was a regular clothing line.
Speaker 3:Let's google. She didn't have a regular clothing line. It was in like coals or seers or something. What you listening to Isie? What you listening to Afro?
Speaker 1:You have cute prints, thank you. Prints dropped a re-release Diamonds and Pearls. From the greats? Did they have to Afro beat Terri?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have to cut the mic, cause it's about to be some, cause she don't fuck around, I love prints. I see you like prints girl. Do you watch his films like Under the Cherry Moon?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't like that one as much. I love prints, but you said prints dropped.
Speaker 2:It was in black, so his estate yes.
Speaker 1:So, there's a re-release of Diamonds and Pearls and that dropped the other day. So you know, I'm just kind of going out memory lane with that. Do you have an African artist or any Afro beats, any type of anything that you're listening to, not actively seek them out? I will say I like that Libyanca girl. I kind of stumbled upon her with that song. What song does that it's been? Have you checked on me? Yeah, she has a nice voice.
Speaker 2:Uh huh, did you check on me? Did you check on me? Yeah, yeah, we all tried to.
Speaker 1:So her name is Libyanca.
Speaker 2:I don't like her name.
Speaker 1:Okay, and so you know it's crazy because, um, just, you have to really educate yourself, because you hear the songs all the time but if you're not like paying attention to who the artist is, so I've heard that song, but I wasn't familiar with her name.
Speaker 2:So thank you for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, yeah, I think she's similar to fashion as these artists, who are of Caribbean and African culture, start to become mainstream. That's my exposure to them, because I would never seek that artist I don't even know she exists if it wasn't for, like okay, y'all are playing this top 40 radio and exposing this artist to a whole new audience, so I do love that. It has now become pop music is now popular. We needed some pop music in our soul because it was getting real drunk it still has some goddamn soul in it and.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 3:Seasoning. It's a real shade. I'm so surprised how many people don't listen to shade these girls are here. What's wrong with shade Shade makes very live music.
Speaker 1:I love shade. It's very loving. The lyrics are very beautiful. It's like playing in the rain.
Speaker 2:It's a good day for shade Shade can put you in a certain spirit.
Speaker 1:if you ain't, if you're a safeguard yourself, I don't know.
Speaker 3:Some of their songs are really like yeah. Depressing, what songs.
Speaker 1:Maybe Mel and Collie. It's just Mel and Collie, not depressed.
Speaker 3:Mel and Collie, because there's a difference.
Speaker 1:Um Stronger Than Pride.
Speaker 3:That's a good one, stronger Than Pride, mm-hmm. Yeah, we forgot about Shaddy. Yeah, I mean Nigerian.
Speaker 1:Let's try that. Um, I'm sorry, this is Mia's comment. No, I asked you what your favorite one was stronger than pride is one of my favorite that that one came first in my mind, so that's probably my favorite.
Speaker 3:And she said I still really really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crying to the music.
Speaker 3:It's very dramatic.
Speaker 1:It's good stories, like I mean. She's an icon like I don't pretend. I love Shaddy. I'm just saying she, she kind of like she ran so Jenae Ico could walk.
Speaker 3:Oh.
Speaker 2:We love you, I love you bitch, I love you. Good job, that's it from Detroit. He would tell you probably fuck real good.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:You see, all right, I guess they got it. Show you know who I'm. You know, stroke a strong.
Speaker 1:Well people say this and I don't you know this there, my I ain't gonna say okay, people say Snow Allegra, they compare to Shaddy.
Speaker 2:I do like her.
Speaker 3:But she is not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sonically though I understand yeah the sleep.
Speaker 3:Sleep back on the tail. Look at me. No, y'all got listening to Shaddy. She has a deep soul tree.
Speaker 1:But the thing with old girl snow she has. She sounds like Michael Jackson to me sometimes. She sounds like a little Stevie, like her ref, the way she might sing a certain sweetest Stuff she's sweet.
Speaker 3:She was born in Sweden, but she, her parents, are Iranian. She's. Persian yeah but she presents.
Speaker 1:Persian, swedish. I mean, I think she intentionally does that Because of the comparison, but she does, I think it might have been a Twitter. I might have been a tweet or someone like I think she gets. She's tired of hearing it. Yeah she also respite. She pays homage. Like you know, I'm not shoddy, like at all, I Can't. I mean it could be her vocal reference. Stress no, me a clinch down the muscles just restricted. I don't like shoddy baby. No, I kind of agree with you on that.
Speaker 2:I do favor the nose is a little slimmer.
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