WE ATE!

We Ate the Holidays: Food, Fashion, Family

November 23, 2023 Aziza Duniani Season 1 Episode 14
We Ate the Holidays: Food, Fashion, Family
WE ATE!
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WE ATE!
We Ate the Holidays: Food, Fashion, Family
Nov 23, 2023 Season 1 Episode 14
Aziza Duniani


The holidays are in the air, and we're bursting with excitement! In this episode we give you Fab and frugal holiday finds as well as some unique holiday decorating tips to what we wear to thanksgiving dinner. You don’t want to miss this episode – we promise a hearty mix of banter, personal anecdotes, and deep conversations.

Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
Credit and special thanks goes to:
Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1


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The holidays are in the air, and we're bursting with excitement! In this episode we give you Fab and frugal holiday finds as well as some unique holiday decorating tips to what we wear to thanksgiving dinner. You don’t want to miss this episode – we promise a hearty mix of banter, personal anecdotes, and deep conversations.

Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
Credit and special thanks goes to:
Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1


Speaker 1:

What's up y'all? This is Sheik Lauren, and welcome to We8. We're spilling the tea on all things fashion, film and television, giving you an exclusive peek into our perspective on style and design. Hey y'all, I'm Sheik Lauren and I am your you know creative with styling, music, how y'all doing today. Hey girl.

Speaker 2:

Hi, I'm Isi Chevelle, costume designer, event producer and all around professional dot connector. Hi girl.

Speaker 3:

I am Mia Nenally, costume designer and creative director.

Speaker 4:

Hey, now you know me. My name is Isi Chevelle and I am assistant costume designer, multifaceted, multi hyphenic, creative host and producer of this podcast, along with my ladies. Yeah, we getting into the holiday season this year, we got some things to talk about. Well, I guess that's gonna be our topic. Overarching topic for this episode is the holiday season, the dudes. That don't how we feel, but we gonna start off with a little bit of over the line and what we're watching on the television today. I know I feel like our streaming options are very slim, so this is kind of where I get all of my ideas of where to watch. What is the nature.

Speaker 1:

People are feeling the strike at home.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they ain't shit to watch. Listen what you watching season.

Speaker 4:

I mean we was just talking about this. I've been watching Black Cake. Yep, it's really good. I love the story. I like novel kind of stories Me was making a mention of like it feels very Oprah. It very much so is, but I love it feels very Oprah produced by Oprah.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, I love it.

Speaker 4:

Queen sugar, yeah, queen sugar.

Speaker 2:

A struggle story Struggle girl Girl.

Speaker 1:

It's good though.

Speaker 2:

I really like it, I enjoy it and out of streaming on Hulu for those of y'all who may want to watch. Anybody want to kind of talk about what it's about.

Speaker 4:

I feel like I don't want to spoil alert.

Speaker 2:

Spoiler alerted Spoiler alerted. It's not three or four different storylines, Family secrets, generational curses you know a lot of them. Tough conversations parents or family members don't have till they're gone, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Or never have, yeah, and then you discover it after they gone and can't ask questions, but yeah.

Speaker 4:

I think there's something to be said about that, Like when it comes to I'm going to say black folks, we black folks, and that's my only reference to it. I'm sure everybody does it, but like we be holding stuff deep down in the dirt. Like, you know what I'm saying I try to talk to my great-grandmother who, by the way, turns 101 next week.

Speaker 5:

Happy birthday my mom.

Speaker 4:

She not going to hear this Happy birthday mom, you know, put it out to the universe. So they know. Yeah, she's 101. And I be trying to ask her questions about my great-grandfather that I've never. I've only seen one picture of this man, but she had five children by him and he's not the great-grandfather I knew.

Speaker 4:

Her second husband was the great-grandfather I knew, so I try to like ask questions because I'm like he's my, that's my blood. You know what I'm saying. I still hang out with cousins that are from his family, like, but I know nothing of his story or who he was as a person. Sis ain't telling me no she's said- your mom don't know you, there Nobody knows when I say no, you better get on Google, put his name in.

Speaker 4:

It don't matter. Let me tell you, I ancestry, I did an ancestry for both sides of my family, my grandmother, who, like I said, she's still alive. So I'm like, oh, I could find all this information. She don't exist. We found out at 99 that her real name is Alibi Smith. What that?

Speaker 2:

sound like some black cake stuff, alibi, black cake. You filming yeah. She got an accent she been suppressing all these years.

Speaker 4:

No, she was like oh I remember people calling me Alibi, but I thought it was my nickname. I was like there's a real fucked up nickname Alibi, alibi, hi, ironic Alibi. Yeah, wild, wild Right, and she went 99 years without knowing.

Speaker 2:

Is it spelled like an Alibi, Like A-L-I-B-I?

Speaker 4:

Yep, my grandmother found her birth certificate and it said Alibi.

Speaker 2:

Smith, there's no who's her parents the world. Did she talk about her parents? I?

Speaker 4:

can't find anything about her or her mother or her mother and there's no like record of her father and I don't think she knew her father until she was like 80.

Speaker 2:

Where about she grew up?

Speaker 4:

Grew up in Her was born.

Speaker 3:

I see About to find it for you, north Carolina.

Speaker 2:

She was born in North Carolina. If I have your whole genie, alley.

Speaker 4:

Listen if you could do the work. She was born in North Carolina. She's lived in Philly for the majority of her life, like since she was a kid, and I think it was a situation. She said something to me on her last visit Like I was like how many kids you got? I mean not kids, how many sisters and brothers do you have? And she like laughed at me Like girl who knows right, and she said something like oh, you know, back in the day they used to send people away when they got pregnant out of wedlock to have their baby. So it might have been a situation like that and they sent her away, her mom away. She had the baby in Philly and then eventually it was like led back in the home but apparently her mother wasn't, you know, was kicked out. So it was a thing.

Speaker 2:

You know? Another thing I just discovered in talking to my side of the family and Chris, my husband's family is back in the day when people had a lot of children, they would cycle them kids out to go stay with somebody else. So it's like I had an aunt who went and stayed, you know, in a whole other state with other family members who didn't have any children and who needed extra help around the house or whatever, and they would send these kids away Child labor, like well, child labor and to get a mouth out the house, I guess, like go stay with your aunt and uncle someone, so they don't have any kids, they could use an extra hand around the house. And I didn't realize how prevalent that was until just recently because even with Chris's sister was telling me she got sent away for X amount of years to go stay with the aunt and the uncle because they needed help. And then another sibling got sent here and there and it's like why was y'all here?

Speaker 4:

It's just like farming y'all out, but because too many miles to feed, like you say. Oh why y'all keep having them kids, because they also need them to work them fumps. No, no, she's a girl.

Speaker 3:

No for sure. My grandmother has a similar story. She is one of 12, and she's the only one that ended up in Atlanta.

Speaker 1:

And we were like why?

Speaker 3:

Well, when she was about 12 or 13, she got pregnant. So, what they do in there, out of Ohio. So what they do is they send them south to a family member, like you just said, who may or may not can have children. So they sent their south to Sparta, georgia, somewhere on the island Ooh girl south south.

Speaker 3:

Somewhere off of 20. Anyway, and she had the baby, the baby went to live with somebody else and this woman, who is my aunt by blood, lives around the corner in Cabbage Town, old Fourth Ward. I've never met the woman before, wow.

Speaker 2:

Who is the baby? Who is the baby that was born, and also my?

Speaker 3:

aunt, my dad's oldest sister, Wow. So if you know where she's at, y'all ain't trying to see, I see we're knocked down at her If there's so much again Black Haid family secrets going on this family that she went to go live with AKA my grandmother's uncle and auntie talked shit about my grandmother and talked shit about my grandmother to her, so now she hates her yeah.

Speaker 4:

Because she's sided with familial. You know whoever her parental bond is.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and they long gone.

Speaker 4:

I'm curious do you guys have because y'all have children? How do you feel Because there is a certain point of like, this is my life, these are my stories to tell At what point do you like introduce your adult, normal, human self to your kid? Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

To be like process, they ain't shocked Look your mama been crazy you witnessed it, you saw it firsthand, ain't gonna be no surprises at the end.

Speaker 1:

When I first was when I first got pregnant with Axel. One of my Christmas gifts was a journal and Chris's intention was to for us to tell our stories in the books, and I want to be more intentional about writing and telling him more about who I am, because they see you as mommy Even though you can be who you are, be your true self, and well, you got to have your boundaries. Of course, because they're kids they can't see all your shit, but telling stories that I want them to know, like about my personal struggles, growing, up or whatever, what can give you guidance to help you grow better, or being able to read the book when I pass on, or whatever.

Speaker 1:

And that came from, you know, an idea of him losing his parents at a young age, so just having that. But the family secrets are wild. Yo, it's wild. We definitely have our share on my I can't even say my dad's side. I mean for sure my mother's. But like, I think it was a similar situation with my grandmother, who had 10 kids and she definitely had her oldest son, which I think was her second son, and I think he stayed in Mississippi to live with my great-grandmother, who was my grandmother's mother. He stayed with her and they moved to Hawaii and that's where my mother was born. She was the fifth child and so when they came back he didn't know her.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he was like who this lady?

Speaker 1:

This my mama? Who are you? Who are you ma'am? Yeah, like I don't know you. You telling me you my mama, though this lady right here is my mama, so it was just interesting how, yeah, like I mean again, she had 10, ended up with 10, but that was only the fourth of it. So it's you know they talk about, oh, we're not having enough kids now.

Speaker 4:

Well, first of all, y'all had enough of all of them, right, well?

Speaker 1:

shit, fuck, we not trying to do all that? But you know times were definitely different back then.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so this generational y'all, this slave shit I always say this is always slave shit. That's why these black families dynamics is so important for us to try to hold on to, because this is something that's happened to us and it is learned behavior.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

For our families to be just taken apart and we saying, oh okay, you were just in.

Speaker 4:

This person this way said and we'll come back together, because I still love you.

Speaker 1:

And it's crazy because I know that you are very, very, very passionate about black families working your shit out, sticking together, staying together, and so it's interesting that that's one of the reasons why. Anyway, like hearing that, I'm like, yeah, it is our family dynamic is jacked up. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's also a generational thing now because it's in all, all cultures, like something just popped in my head. Y'all know I'm a huge Jack Nicholson fan. That's my honey right there. Jack Nicholson grew up his whole life thinking that his mother, who was actually his grandmother, the woman he thought was his sister, was his mother and the woman that he thought was his mother was his grandmother. And he didn't find out until he's a successful actor and a grown man and they're all dead and gone. But it's prevalent. It's a generational thing too because whether you black, white, asian, indian, if you got knocked up back in them days, you know and it was shameful or whatever.

Speaker 2:

they would just ship you off somewhere, or they would raise the baby and then tell you this is your sister and it's really your mom, or whatever.

Speaker 4:

So I couldn't hold them secrets. I can't hold water like that. I'd be like miss. I can't.

Speaker 1:

Don't tell me Jesus.

Speaker 4:

Don't tell me, cause I'd be like now. You know you're real, real close with your sister. Oh man, I just know that's your mama, right.

Speaker 1:

Me personally. I don't wanna have those types of things. Things, yeah, like they make you sick too. This is the shit you need to know about, Such as that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they make you sick, they make you sad this, who you are, well y'all know. I just found a German aunt and I just found my sister this year, found two of them in the last couple of months, and my aunt especially for her not knowing her identity. She knew she was biracial. She didn't know what though she was like. I could have been Hispanic, I could have been, you know, she didn't know what she was. So to give her those answers that she was looking for of like who am I, who are my people, I mean that's really powerful, because sometimes people feel isolated, but I never felt like I fit in with my family, or they always seem to she came from an abusive environment to people who adopted her abused her severely, so she never understood why the adoptive mom hated her so much.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, to give people part of their identity, you know a lot of things we pass down in our DNA and to not know why. I am that way because someone's holding on secrets. That's not right. So y'all check out Black Cake, because that's a lot going on. It's so live babe. We can do our own episode of Black Cake.

Speaker 1:

Right, so we just need to go on and spin off. We ate into a production company and write some shit. Oh, look at that.

Speaker 4:

Look at that. Hmm, skills to pay the bills. Anybody else got something they watching? They watching right now, or is it?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I watched 24. Oh, my bad go ahead. I'm sorry I watched. Was it quiz? Was it the quiz lady or the quiz? Hold on, let me make sure I got the.

Speaker 2:

What channel is that on?

Speaker 1:

Quiz lady. So I watched a movie called Quiz Lady on Netflix. I seen that that shit was funny as hell to me.

Speaker 4:

Yo the Asian actors is beating it up.

Speaker 1:

I said that. I said we need more of this shit because fucking beef was great.

Speaker 4:

That was great. Everything all the time, all at once.

Speaker 1:

Oh my god, that shit was beautiful. I had to watch that several times.

Speaker 2:

It was beautiful, but it made my head hurt. Yeah, I went to her Shirley Carotta.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I don't know, I'm sure she designed it. She would design which one.

Speaker 3:

Everything all at once, ooh.

Speaker 1:

Shirley did her thing. Okay, she knew it was beautiful.

Speaker 2:

Come on, cheryl, I feel like that's something you had to be on some lettuce, no, the costumes on.

Speaker 1:

That one was beautiful.

Speaker 2:

And the hair and makeup? Yeah, it was wild.

Speaker 1:

You had to get the top notch at the top notch 10 out of 10 out of 10. Quiz lady was funny. I think the costumes were in the di because the movie was a comedy. Obviously, I think the costumes were good in the sense that they definitely told the story of who the characters were. Sandra O looked good, she did be.

Speaker 4:

She looked great Like how old is she? She's a slim.

Speaker 1:

She's the older sister.

Speaker 4:

But she's a ma'am. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she grown for real, she grown for real, she kind of played that well she did, and I thought that the costume was hilarious because it was like this woman who was kind of stuck in her past self Teenie Bopper From the 80s. Yes, but she still, it was like it was funny, it was good, it was good shit. I thought that it told a good story and it was just funny. So if you just need something lighthearted and I'll put that one up, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And if you are looking for something less lighthearted. I'm watching Murder at the End of the World.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I've been. That's an episodic.

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's on Hulu. Yeah, it's on Hulu. It's, like you know, white. Well, yeah, white people with too much money, ai billionaires who always trying to test the boundaries of stuff and then a murder happens. Oh, yeah, so they all have to figure out like who done it.

Speaker 1:

That's my type of shit About who done it?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, all right, I'll try that next time.

Speaker 1:

See, now you got something to watch.

Speaker 4:

Well, I'm gonna listen, I'm gonna keep an eye out, cause we got some dope films rolling out in the next month or two, Especially the color purple I keep shining out. I'm so excited.

Speaker 3:

I'm about to purchase my tickets Christmas Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna purchase my ticket in advance. I'm gonna be that girl.

Speaker 3:

I'm not easy, you stay in here.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, this is my first Christmas with the family. Yeah With and yeah. And like for years, where are you guys from, maybe Abroad?

Speaker 1:

Abroad, honey, I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Where were you last?

Speaker 1:

Yes, you were gone for a long. You was gone for what a month.

Speaker 4:

Mm-hmm. Oh, you lived in Costa Rica the year before that.

Speaker 1:

I loved it for you.

Speaker 4:

Asheville. Before that that was an abroad, that was up the street, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Beautiful out there. No, the mountain.

Speaker 4:

I don't necessarily like the pressures of the holiday. Personally, it's kind of overwhelming for me. So when I can like dip out and my family's not like Christmas-y, that's not like our thing. We're Quons of people, mm-hmm. So, yeah, so I be like I'm good, y'all, I'm out, I'm gonna go do my own thing, get my with me and my man, I think it's beautiful Son. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Not this year, huh. So what you gonna do? Different Cause, you know.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna see her look at my siblings like so this is what y'all do, huh Cause you know Little birthday Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3:

Chic winter and myself and some of she's friends we're going to Carton Hania, columbia girl's trip. Chic girl's trip.

Speaker 2:

Happy birthday.

Speaker 1:

I'm like it's my birthday. It's my birthday, hello, it's my birthday. Yeah, so Pivotal year for me, okay, pivotal, I'm excited.

Speaker 3:

And that's very to me, that stressful Planning for a trip.

Speaker 4:

But then once you get to that, airport.

Speaker 3:

It's almost like every let it go. We're on the plane.

Speaker 4:

We made it. Y'all about to have a ball Like can we have a close friends group message?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Can we have a great?

Speaker 4:

eight group, I mean, I guess we already have one.

Speaker 3:

We got 25 group messages already.

Speaker 4:

We want to know everything that's happening.

Speaker 3:

But the trick is to get dressed, and not getting dressed is packing for a season that we just had, aka packing for summer, and I just put that shit away.

Speaker 1:

So one thing to keep in mind, though, about going to Cartagena is this is their rain season, and I was like damn.

Speaker 1:

Maybe I should have waited till December, because my birthdays at the end of the month is always one or around Thanksgiving, and so a lot of times I'll plan. But this year I was like man, fuck this shit, I'm out going somewhere at the last minute and made it happen and I'm very excited and I'm happy because you know I'm turning 40. Well, maybe I shouldn't say that on air. You know how this entertainment industry does Fuck them people. You look so turning 40 bitch, and I look fantastic. I look 27. Yes, you do. I love that. I love that Tooting my own goddamn horn. Toot, toot, Toot, toot. It's not gonna be rain on right now. I hope not.

Speaker 4:

But whatever it is, it's gonna be hot. Y'all not gonna be thinking of that rain. You'll be like, wow Me. It's gonna be like look at the rain, guys, I'm gonna keep it real cute, I know that's right.

Speaker 1:

Because I don't know what the hell going on. I don't want to fuck with too many locals.

Speaker 4:

It ain't the safest in certain spaces. Wait, so you guys aren't doing anything to give us stuff here. You just gonna dip out, that's nice too.

Speaker 1:

It looks like we're gonna go. I mean, I would really wish I did dip out on Thanksgiving Day. That would have been dope. My mother's gonna be in DC with her husband, my stepfather and his children, so you know she's distressed and she's going there. I'm kidding, I love you mom. She would never do such a thing, but I was just like there ain't no point in me going to Charlotte and so, yeah, I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna call her another mother, my guys, a woman who he considers a mother figure. We're gonna spend some time with her.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's, quite nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you know. So I'm cool and I love the fact that I ain't really got a cook for real. Like I'm gonna probably do some sweet potato pies and bring a little bottle. You feel me, it's a little bottle. See, maybe bring a gummy for everyone's, everyone's.

Speaker 3:

Everybody, even a child. No no, no Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1:

No, no, you don't like Thanksgiving, it's like my least favorite. Why is it your least?

Speaker 3:

favorite it's the food and, like this year is my year with my in-laws, they just put too much salt in their food. So, I feel like every lamb gets swollen. Mm-hmm, every one of my fingers are bigger. My ring doesn't fit anymore. My limbs are swollen. I feel like I need water, but no one drinks water. They got tea. No Iced tea. Eliminate with. That's basically a gateway to diabetes. It's just too much. I just not Thanksgiving, ain't my shit.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying.

Speaker 3:

I really prefer, maybe like gumbo, maybe you had the gumbo. Like the people in New Orleans, they do the gumbo and then they do the potato salad on the side. Are you supposed to eat them together? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

I'm supposed to eat pig feet and potato salad. You ain't ever had no pig feet, no.

Speaker 4:

We don't do dogs, no, don't yeah okay, all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, mobile crab, mobile, crab Mobile. For me, yeah, potato salad, pig feet and potato salad go together, so that makes sense.

Speaker 3:

That would never find that, but I do like to make mac and cheese every now and then, but I make my own aguda. That's my secret ingredient I like smoked aguda. I like smoked aguda in my mac and cheese.

Speaker 4:

The blocks yeah.

Speaker 1:

Natural, natural crab. The blocks. I'm the blocks.

Speaker 2:

Natural crab sliced.

Speaker 1:

American cheese.

Speaker 2:

And I remember your Italian greens.

Speaker 4:

Italian greens child, so mama, so baby look.

Speaker 2:

Little Italian. It was good, though she gave me some, it was good, my aunt Angie in New Orleans.

Speaker 1:

Well, she's in Hammond, louisiana, right outside of New Orleans. We used to go to the Bayou Classic every year when I was a child, growing up, and that's the game between Southern and Grambling Great times, lots of friends and family. We connected Really. I had no idea Maybe like once or twice.

Speaker 1:

No, like for real, because I had been going. So I had started going, I want to say since I was like six or seven so and that was a long time ago and y'all just heard my age, so I had no idea it was ever in Atlanta. But we would go visit and my aunt Angie and my uncle Ray. My uncle Ray put us on to fry turkey and he used to like and he would inject with these amazing supple seasonings Not supple- oh honey that turkey.

Speaker 2:

That turkey.

Speaker 1:

Because it was so tender and tasty. Ok, but her collard greens, she would put Italian dressing in and instead of vinegar, so it's like the vinegar substitute. But, it gives it more kick, so it gives it a little bit more flavor, and so, yes, italian greens, not from Italy, just some Italian dressing.

Speaker 2:

It makes sense, though, because Italian dressing is very flavorful and has all of the especially. We get the zesty one with all the little garlic bits and stuff, so it threw me off. I'm like this child putting salad dressing in the greens.

Speaker 1:

She sucked them greens. They was good.

Speaker 2:

I ain't going live, but it makes sense. But I'm doing something different. I am going to have to cook because I'm going to see my father down in Savannah.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 2:

I'm probably not. Probably I am going to do all the cooking, but I don't want turkey. I'm making short ribs, I'm making gumbo greens, which I tested out a few weeks ago.

Speaker 4:

That looked like it was real good.

Speaker 2:

You just put greens in it like make a room, yeah, that sounds real interesting, that's got too much high blood pressure in it for you, maybe not.

Speaker 3:

But it's really good.

Speaker 2:

It's like if greens and gumbo had a baby. So it's like you have like imagine gumbo and then you just have collards in it. So it was really really good. I tested it out. I'm like, ok, I can make this.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to tell my daddy about that.

Speaker 2:

So I'm going to make some turkey wings, not a whole turkey. We a turkey wing family, we won't do the whole turkey and probably lobster mac and cheese, because they asked me to make that every year. But I'm not really feeling the traditional food items. I want to do something a little different. And then my cousins they try to get some oysters and some crab for me, oh that sounds right, I'm going to do a little crab bowl situation. So I'm feeling it.

Speaker 1:

I know that's right you sound like we need to pull a bitch.

Speaker 4:

My thanks. Even my dad just makes gumbo every year. That's like his tradition. He makes a big pot of gumbo. Of course he'll do a fried turkey and all the other things. I don't eat that. I really don't even eat the gumbo of the day up because I like it better the next day. So I'll just eat macaroni and cheese and cranberry sauce in a small portion. I don't like the glutiny of it. I don't like the pass out. This food's so brown.

Speaker 1:

It's heavy Brown towel.

Speaker 2:

It's like a pass. It's heavy.

Speaker 4:

I'm just plain. Yeah, it doesn't feel the best, but I do enjoy Thanksgiving. It is the one holiday that my family Indigenous people day. However you flip it, that's the one time everybody in my family gets together. So all my siblings, now that everybody's out of town, everybody will come home for that and my dad'll make gumbo and that's our tradition that sounds great, don't catch us. Christmas, but we'll be there for thanks. Really, yeah, that's so interesting.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think it's the opposite.

Speaker 4:

Really.

Speaker 3:

No, oh yeah, because y'all quons are people, we quons are people.

Speaker 4:

Sorry, we quons are people. And then also that's like my grandparents' holiday Growing up my parents were like won't celebrate Christmas, but we're going to take you to your grandma's house. And it's like OK, cool so that was my tradition was like when we moved back, moved to Georgia, it was like well, I don't know what you want, your grandparents ain't here, so we can sit down and eat this meal together.

Speaker 5:

I will cook, probably for Christmas. I think I'm going to go home for Christmas because you're going to be away with each other for this holiday, so I will go home for Christmas and see folks. I'm going on like a little two day retreat before with the boo, so that should be cute.

Speaker 4:

It's the best way to go.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and then one of my sisters has come in town and I'm going to try and see her. So we'll see. I'm kind of choosing boo right now because we need a little peace.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

But I would really love to see her too On the retreat. They have like a little grill and we'll do like our steak and potatoes.

Speaker 4:

This is just a y'all to retreat or retreat with other people. It's just he and I.

Speaker 5:

Oh, that's nice yeah it's just he and I for a couple days and and I know it like I feel bad because it feels kind of selfish to you, but I've had this moment in a minute, so I'm kind of just space and Um, but I've been cooking so I may not cook on that these days. That's reserved to cook, but I cook. I plan on being Some little frilly panties, mm-hmm to try a prance? Yeah, I know those little kids have you seen the penis with the ruffles like that make the V.

Speaker 5:

My mother used to wear back in the day, yeah, I don't order about faux panties. No, no, no, this is just to walk around. I'm gonna wear like a little cardigan.

Speaker 1:

Girl, shit, tell me the story, I need it.

Speaker 4:

Listen, I was gonna say do y'all get like done up? I've been in households where people are like well, we, we are those girls so we're gonna be extra about anything but um. I've been in households where people be like and they pajamas from the three-day cooking spree and like I just have to get Myself together. It's like why aren't you?

Speaker 3:

already with their body.

Speaker 4:

When people coming in. They're coming in at 3 pm and I'm just a little angel today's really Mac and cheese. All, all your shit. Got the same season in any because of three days. Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I come dressed. Yeah, what you wearing, girl I mean. So my mama side of the family, like they're, they look forward to seeing what I get up, so I dress specifically for them.

Speaker 1:

So, I guess me up yeah, what is me. And not only gonna wear I don't know what I'm aware of this year probably something playful.

Speaker 3:

I don't know colors, definitely oversized. If I do decide to eat which I probably won't eat, probably do more drinking.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

So they got a dog. I usually just go outside with the dog and play. Hmm, that's a while I'm introverted character building people like Character people, though what?

Speaker 4:

you mean to me? No, that's a thing.

Speaker 3:

I can introvert around my, my husband and my son. It don't matter introverted is introverted.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I just need to be alone.

Speaker 3:

I know that's right.

Speaker 4:

Listen, the way my household works, they gonna put that shit the fuck on.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like a duny on you know that should be our family picture, my dad is putting up the drop, like my dad's a photographer also, so he has a whole studio in his garage. He's gonna set it up so we can all take our little photos and get our little editorial thing off. I haven't figured out what I'm gonna wear, but we're very Aggressive about it. I remember the first Thanksgiving hey, sue's came with me too. I didn't took off my shoes at the door cuz we said somebody else's house and my brother was like this look, isn't it?

Speaker 4:

you're missing something and I was like my shoes are at the door, and then we saw me leave. He was like oh yeah, that's it. So why'd you take your shoes off? I was like we're at somebody else's house, I can't walk around in these thigh boots. Like it was like you're missing something. I was like motherfucker. He was right, I needed my shoes. I needed shoes to deliver the look and the coat.

Speaker 2:

I might be in Savannah Georgia where Probably the highest end that they got is Delers. So there is no, there is no need to impress. I'm just going for comfy. I mean, even my comfy and casual is a little bit.

Speaker 1:

More shoes, but.

Speaker 2:

I'm something stretchy, something. You know sweater, sweater dress. You know Something with the elastic waistband, cuz I'm gonna eat and I ain't trying to be cute with it, I ain't trying to be uncomfortable like unbuttoning the button underneath the table. So yeah, I'm going for cute and casual.

Speaker 4:

Watching, wait, wait. Y'all just wait out and see cuz.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I'm being there, and then we don't see some sparkles? It's gonna be sparkles on that sweater dress sequins.

Speaker 2:

Be more Christmas if I do that or it might be holiday pictures, because we do have to schedule Pictures with the baby, which we do every year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I've not done. Never took in a family photo.

Speaker 2:

Even if it's just a tripod and your cell phone, because there's so many apps and stuff now where you can like yeah, so I have done.

Speaker 1:

One time I took like a picture of Axel and Put it on like a shutter fly Background or a camera background. I did something like that and sent about virtually yeah, we have never taken a family picture.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we don't do the print and audit like you want to get this.

Speaker 3:

Christmas car and you'll take holidays.

Speaker 2:

But I like planning out, like the color coordination and you know, sometimes even before the baby used to be me, chris and Poe so I would literally dress poa and we would go to Pet Smart because Pet Smart will allow you to wear a ring. He's or he's wore a couple of different looks. You know he'll wear a sweater or something that matches what we're wearing.

Speaker 1:

Can you tell us the theme, like what's the vibe you're going for this year?

Speaker 2:

this year I think we're doing hounds too, girl, that is.

Speaker 4:

That is the most specific, like we're not doing, you know, a summery winter. We're not doing like sparkles and leather, we're doing. So anxiety written to have to go find Got it.

Speaker 2:

Are you do already got it me and the baby got matching dresses. Chris got a sweater option, a tie option. I got a houndstooth Pocket square in case we want him to be more subtle. Poe got a vest.

Speaker 4:

Let's go back over this, chris wear it depends, because he don't have a choice yo, he seemed like it to Chris be, chris, be like, I'm just here, I don't get by.

Speaker 2:

But I don't want house to can be like Overwhelming too. So I'm trying to figure out like the right combination, especially on a man. I don't want you to be just like boom, like it's house to ever everywhere, so he might be more in solids and then like access of hounds too. So I got a hounds to belt for him, got a house to like Tighten, hounds to belt men, and I got some options that popped up. So we got some options to play with. We'll see if Poe is gonna make an appearance in our pictures this year, because we usually hire somebody during COVID. We have this guy in our neighborhood who goes and does porch portraits for all the families, but I think this year we can just do it our tripod.

Speaker 4:

Even though we're all kind of like on these ebb and flows of how we deal with the holidays Thanksgiving, whatever, when you're hosting, you do kind of have to like give a decorating moment. Even if it's just put yeah, not just clean it up, make it smell like pine or some shit, put a little brief on the top of the fucking door or something. What are some quick and easy ways that people are listening as us Could, kind of like, add a little holiday touch, a holiday cheer, some holiday energy to our homes.

Speaker 5:

So I'm really big in like minimal Christmas or minimal holiday, so I play with like colors or patterns of the season. So when I see us talking about hounds too there's a couple of red and white hounds to pillows that I saw that you can like throw in on your couch I'll say your couch is gray or white or whatever you know kind of mix in there with patterns. Then Christmas balls sit them more. So like just the solid colors, like a couple over here, a couple over there, but not too much. Candlestick holders are really good in the office. I just bought some in there, just these great green ones and it's interchangeable, like it's just a good color so you can keep them throughout the season. But I think like just little touches like that instead of like your. If you buy fresh flowers like me, I would start buying like red roses. This is the only time I like roses during the holiday season.

Speaker 1:

Not points, not points Only time. I like roses right now because it's Christmas.

Speaker 5:

And maybe playing more with like twigs and branches now than any other time, mm Tell them fall make something look alive for a moment.

Speaker 3:

There's no twigs and branches in my trees.

Speaker 4:

Yeah plaid were really good. Mm-hmm In your tree.

Speaker 3:

Like in your, my Christmas tree, oh, in your Christmas tree. Like from home goods or Michaels or whatever. Not home goods, michaels. I was just somewhere else also.

Speaker 5:

Oh, trader Joe's, they have the white ones right now, like they're like um fern branches, they're like 399 guys back and you can like just place them throughout your home and start like a vase and then throw like a couple of fresh flowers in there, just to give you the feels of the holiday without odying Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, I think that's probably the best way to go about it, because then, also you have to think about the breakdown of all those things. We ain't trying to see your holiday shit come February. Okay, it needs to be gone, but if you do smaller touches like that, it's a little bit easier to like integrate in and let it phase on out.

Speaker 5:

You know I got like a Western bag. I just keep in the closet pull it out.

Speaker 4:

Pull out your trigger.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, and then update.

Speaker 3:

That way it's not too much.

Speaker 5:

I also do. Charlie Brown trees versus like big trees, charlie Brown live trees, the mini ones those work, because I could just sit them, like you know, on, like your, on top of something. What's the shit? A credenza, you know, versus like all big ass trees. I also have an older child, so I don't need all the kids that y'all may need from Tots.

Speaker 2:

I just started putting up a tree. I'm not into Christmas, I don't know. I don't know what happened. I think that it's not as fun anymore once you're an adult and I think once you have a child, then you start kind of feeling the pressure of like well, let me do this for their experience, and I think also I'm such a great and thoughtful if I say so myself gift giver and I put so much thought into like my family's gifts and stuff and then they will always give me the most like.

Speaker 3:

Bullshit.

Speaker 2:

Like oh, I thought you would look like this is not me at all. Like. So I'm very much like you can just give me a gift card, which is fine because then I can shop for myself, but it also is lacking that personal touch of like you see me, you get me, you were thoughtful.

Speaker 1:

But you rather that than some bullshit.

Speaker 2:

I would so just give me the gift card and that's what we got to do, or I literally have to give my husband a list. I was going to say.

Speaker 3:

Let me tell you all the things. Who's been there? Your family members.

Speaker 2:

Well, it depends on you know what type of Christmas year it is, if it's all of us or just. But even when we're dating and stuff like I would have, and there's always a fine line of like being ungrateful or coming off as ungrateful versus like I just want you to get me. I'm not ungrateful, but like Pay attention. Listen did you listen, I've been dropping nuggets and hits and sending.

Speaker 3:

Amazon cards and all of that, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's like sometimes you have to love people the way in which they receive love. Not how you want to give it or what you think they might want.

Speaker 4:

That's weird, I guess.

Speaker 2:

Love me, how I'm asking for you to love me and even in the gift giving, like, don't just be like. I see that you gave me this list of eight things, but I saw this thing and that's what I'm going to get you, because Chris is the. Christmas Eve the night before as well, lennox Small, I'm in here fighting an old lady for the last of this thing that my wife don't even want, type of gift giver.

Speaker 4:

It's not worth it and I'm like Chris, go on pick it up on Friday. My brother Small business Saturday. Hook him up early, you know.

Speaker 2:

But I will say the last two years or no, two years ago, I mean, he got every single thing on the list and I was like I was just trying. This is just a list of you can get some of these things, yeah, I mean he OD. So he kind of got a pass for a year or so of like, all right, you did good, yeah. But um yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm not big into Christmas so I just started putting up a tree for the baby. And because we've had COVID every year, like our Christmas is just like uh, uh, so I gotta find some holiday cheer, Hmm.

Speaker 4:

Because you got a young. How old is that? You're four, three, three and three years. You've been sick.

Speaker 2:

We've had COVID every three years of her life.

Speaker 4:

She's gonna be like mommy put the mask on it's Christmas. That is yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

That is a lot.

Speaker 2:

But it's not just all of Atlanta has had COVID the last three holiday seasons, because I remember that first year, the first year, people were kind of embarrassed to say I got it, uh-huh, but everybody had it. If you went to the Marys ball, if you went to like any of the things that everybody left with. Covid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that was the scary year, right, it just happened last year too, when they went to the Marys ball and they got sick.

Speaker 5:

Yes, I remember that was last year.

Speaker 2:

Well, I didn't catch it at the Marys ball last year because I had already caught it for things to get me.

Speaker 3:

And me and you were sitting up under each other. Remember this. No, because we never sit up under each other, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, y'all was definitely.

Speaker 3:

I was on the floor and you were sitting up on a chair At the office, at the office.

Speaker 4:

And y'all was sharing a mic.

Speaker 3:

We were sharing a mic yeah.

Speaker 1:

This was the first birthday of us. We were trying to get this pie cast that we got here today. This was our first pie cast Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

So y'all know, there's a history, a almost two year history of this pie.

Speaker 1:

Cast this shit almost ain't naked. Okay, because these are with sick of us In our shit.

Speaker 4:

In our shit. It was scraggly as hell, but we, we didn't record it for ever In our episodes, before we even got to this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's a long time coming.

Speaker 5:

But that's so interesting. No, y'all got sick at the office, See I didn't remember that.

Speaker 2:

That's not about to have attitude. Well, we were no.

Speaker 3:

no, you were in the gathering spot had the duck Remember.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I did, it was lamb, but yeah, lamb, I remember now, yeah, and then we both had that.

Speaker 3:

We both had COVID that day. Not that day, but could we consecutively Mm-hmm.

Speaker 4:

That sound like I did. We get the available system.

Speaker 3:

Well, I don't know about y'all, y'all might not have tested, but like we definitely did, definitely don't test. Well, I had. So no, I was wondering. I was too after that test. I was on Disney production and they were testing and I was like what I got? Covid man, fuck y'all.

Speaker 5:

You sure did. That was the last time you had it. Yeah, Some shit you know sending your immunity booster.

Speaker 3:

And remedies, remedies Things that works for you guys. That's passed on from generation to generation Because some of us be sexy and this is when everybody starts traveling.

Speaker 4:

This is when people, even if you don't get sick, you tend to get a little itchy throat or something like that. I feel like we should just touch on like what are the things we all do in our house that are like immune boosting?

Speaker 2:

When I go to Savannah. So I'm Gucci, so there's this plant on Saipolo Island where my people are from, and it's called Life Everlasting. And the Life Everlasting plant is what generations of former slaves? They use that as their cure-all for everything. You can make a tea and it looks like a flower. You can pluck it off the side of the row and you just grind that down and make a tea out of it. So I'm gonna stock up on that instead of you know my ancestors knew what they were talking about.

Speaker 3:

The most natural thing possible to do is eat your vitamins.

Speaker 4:

Eat your vitamins. No, literally Sit outside.

Speaker 3:

Sit outside, go for walks, eat your or whatever exercise that you do, and eat well. And go get vitamin D by sucking up the sun. Only thing I take is vitamin D drops because I'm deficient, but I almost feel like vitamins has gotten us away from actually doing that basic shit. Just like eating healthy Just eat right because if you don't all that magnesium and one of the days and all that stuff that you take, it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 4:

Growing up my mom used to my mom I always say I came from a hippie family my mama used to make penicillin with vinegar apple cider vinegar, like in the summer. She would get a mason jar. She'd put garlic cayenne and maybe lemon peels I might be lying about the lemon, but definitely garlic cayenne in this mason jar, lock it up and I wouldn't see it until the winter. And come winter, literally every day going to school, or like fall, every day going to school. She would give us a spoonful. I don't think we ever really got Was it honey, that was in it too.

Speaker 4:

Or no, it was just like this it was just the garlic and the and the vinegar for the penicillin. But when we did get like a cough coming or something like that, she would give us onions that she had soaked in honey like raw honey, and then it like pulls the whatever from the onions and then give us like a spoonful of that as cough syrup.

Speaker 3:

Oh and water. Drink your water, please. People don't drink enough water.

Speaker 2:

So for your fab and frugal holiday finds, there are a lot of Black Friday deals that are going on. Some of them have actually already started. There's Amazon has a great Black Friday sale going on, and even some designer stores or luxury stores, such as Saks and Neemans Netaporter Essence they're offering up to 25 to 30% of if you log into their website and type in whichever promo code that you see listed there. And yeah, there's a lot of good deals where you can get maybe that thing that you've been eyeing for a while but didn't want to pay full price for. This is a perfect time to go ahead and splurge a little bit, but to get it out of discount.

Speaker 4:

I also want to say, if you look, go on like your event rights, your Instagrams, and look up like local pop-up shops that are happening in your city, because there's also a bunch of those happening, this comes out. By this time this comes out, there would have already been. Manor Co is hosting a pop-up shop last weekend and you know, perfect place to get your little gyms. There's some branded stuff, there's vintage moments that you can get. A lot of the stuff is curated, so like oh, it's gifts too.

Speaker 5:

If it gives like candles and local soaps will be there. Oh and untitled, untitled, okay.

Speaker 1:

It ain't got no time Pulled up yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there we go, there we go, and I also. If you're in DC this week, so by the time this comes out, the 25th, there is also a pop-up shop in DC happening at Opulent Society Small business pop up, get your little gifts and trinkets and all the things. But yeah, that's another way that you can save money and not have to pay full price on some of these items that you like or love, or finding something that's very tasteful and specific to the person that you love. Don't just be buying shit, just spending money now.

Speaker 2:

We're having to hate it and re-gift it. Listen, what's your picture, your?

Speaker 5:

idea of sharing those, would you say you share what your shopping list, what your future do. I just did that. I shared my real, real with my guy.

Speaker 4:

I was like, if you ever just because we went shopping and I, it wasn't my cup of tea that was just like here you go, I don't know, yeah, yeah, you know like, okay, yeah, so keep a lookout for things like that. That's really helpful, uh we got some music. It's music time, Music time. Oh, we're at Andre 3000.

Speaker 1:

Oh that's cool, I talked about the flute record. Gotta talk about the flute, y'all what? And here's the thing when I, just when, when the news dropped, I just happened to see the artwork and I didn't read nothing, no caption, anything, I said this shit about, to be straight up flu.

Speaker 5:

Was it him sitting in?

Speaker 1:

the network. It was the cartoon one, yeah, and I was just well actually I don't even think I saw the cover, I just saw like the headline and he's putting out the album. I said, oh, this shit about to be straight flute.

Speaker 3:

I hope not later. No, it really is.

Speaker 5:

He just said it for a minute. What would I be rapping about it's? I mean, he's been featured on.

Speaker 1:

We will take a rant.

Speaker 2:

We you know it is going to be very interesting to hear what this sounds like.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, can I wait, because Emma fucks her mouth to a Marble. It's called Blue Moon or something New Blue Moon, something like that. Or the Sun Blue New Blue Sun or something like that. I'm here for it. Is it going to be like? This is some bullshit and everybody's just sucked in because it's Andre 3000.

Speaker 3:

Like it's going to be like an episode of it.

Speaker 1:

He has never, but no, but what I'm trying to say is like it's like an episode of Atlanta Right, or like everybody's excited because it's Andre 3000. And then it's about to drop a flute album and then it's just like and then everybody's like we fucking waited Cuz this nigga, this shit hard Yo we. You said it's like an episode of.

Speaker 4:

Atlanta. I'm looking at him holding this. What if this shit isn't Joe like? What if this shit is an experiment?

Speaker 5:

Let me see if you have a. Mike said it a while ago and then he retracted it like. I'm just playing.

Speaker 3:

What do you say? He said he was going to put out an album out. Oh yeah, he sure did.

Speaker 1:

We didn't know it's going to be off Flood, but we're going to listen to it. We're going to be here for it. We're going to be here for it, we're going to be here for it.

Speaker 4:

I am excited, though, for a new sound. You know what I'm saying. Like it is some new shit, yeah, so shout out to the artists out there who are not afraid to try this.

Speaker 3:

Really, what they're doing is creating art for themselves versus for others because, sometimes that's what you really need. Yeah, I respect all of it, I don't even care if I don't like it. It's just the fact that you went out. You know what I mean. If you might know how many years that he's probably been thinking about this. Just the idea of thinking and saying I'm this person, now I'm going to do something totally different, make a 360 and put that shit out there, because that's what an artist is an artist, fuck that.

Speaker 2:

I respect it. I feel like we talked about that one here before too recently, like because that's how we got into Shade and stuff. Like I respect because I think I said something like I don't want to hear from a like 45 year old rapper and I respect.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.

Speaker 2:

Good, it's because I respect the fact that artists like waiting till they have something to say for sure should drop new music Absolutely. Versus, like I need to say, relevant. So I'm gonna put out mediocre stuff.

Speaker 1:

But that's what I'm saying, like I don't. I was saying I don't give a fuck about your age, like if you've already been in this nauseous 50 plus.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and he's been doing it and he's still trying to put one of the best albums out. A couple of years ago, how did he about 50 something years?

Speaker 1:

ago.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like if you're good drop another album Jig a man. I'm always you are talking about. I mean because, so you run the risk of like your fan base either, like you ain't the J that we love, because your lifestyle ain't the same, so you can't you know we love him.

Speaker 1:

He's been billion year J, billion year J.

Speaker 2:

So it's a cycle, right as you continue to be in the game, you're going to win new fans. You're going to lose old fans. Some people are going to want to remember you for what they first fell in love with you. You talk about crack and they're not going to be on the new wave. We're talking about purple label and blah, blah, blah and my you know 18 room mansion. Some people aren't going to like identify with that anymore. So I think that's okay.

Speaker 3:

Those people are natural people. You're right, and you.

Speaker 2:

It's a cycle you lose new, you lose old people, you get new people, and I think what Andre's doing is like he's going to be introducing himself to a whole new group of people who that's losing?

Speaker 1:

no one, because I don't think it's fucking Andre 3000. Everyone's going to do it.

Speaker 4:

I think what's to be, what's good to be said, or has to be said, is the fact that, like, as you're aging and changing, your audience is too.

Speaker 4:

So like, even if they're not on the dope boy shit, they're also going to appreciate the progression because their taste level if you was at the bottom of the barrel, you might be at the middle of the barrel now and understand a little bit more than you did before. You know what I'm saying. Like that's an important thing. And when you switch this strongly, like how Andre is doing, like we're doing a flute album, that's a full redirect or whatever. But I think as these artists progress, people are still going to listen to them. I E Nas, I E Jay Z, but, like Jay said in his interview with a girl, she was like he was like, yeah, um, I don't know if I'm going to make new music. I might, I might not, but I'm not going to do it until I have something to say.

Speaker 4:

And that's fair. I'm not going to force it.

Speaker 1:

Somebody told me this a while back, as because I'm a songwriter but I'd like to be more consistent in creating right. And so a friend of mine, an engineer friend of mine, was just like oh, you know, uh, this is what separates and he's not lying, separates a professional in an amateur and professionals going to figure out a way to do it. Any old way, you're always going to create your music, you're always going to write and yes, that's true, but like sometimes, when you just really need solid music, you, you need to be able to write from somewhere, you need to be able to write from a place and the experience, the inspiration, the different things that happen in your life, or things that you see with other people, conversations that you're having.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes life has to just happen to be able to create great shit.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I agree with that. I see that in Kanye.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I feel like.

Speaker 5:

I feel like his body of work. You can see the mountains and everything he's gone through. Yeah, like when he was in 808s he had just lost his mom, like everything tells the story about what he's really in real, in real time of his, the space of his life.

Speaker 4:

And he doesn't pigeonhole himself for album versus album versus even feature. His features are even different, like, depending on who he's dealing with.

Speaker 3:

you know he talked about last week.

Speaker 5:

I think it has to think about being an artist like if you can transcend through time, you should do that. That's like immortality.

Speaker 2:

But anyway, we've discovered some new music, right. So we've got. We got Victoria Monet and her Grammy nomination. She had a Grammy nomination.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, shout out to her and her team and I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 3:

She deserves it.

Speaker 1:

She does deserve it. She's been writing for a lot of people for a few years now. Her previous projects have been great, so it's really exciting to see her have this type of victory, after MTV told her. Oh, you're not quite big enough to be on the VMA stage yet.

Speaker 4:

They tell her Monet, she definitely she worked. Yes, she gets it in and Give her her flowers.

Speaker 1:

It's also some. It was a lot of R&B artists that got nominated. Did those you get nominated? I don't know. But honestly like not to say that her album wasn't good, but she got R&B album or some R&B nods previous. I thought she was more pop. She is, but they have put her. They have put.

Speaker 5:

R&B vibes on.

Speaker 2:

Really.

Speaker 5:

It's the producer who she's working with. Shout out to him and that that whole team. My girl, kurt's great, but she got some moments on there.

Speaker 1:

She got it's a good. It's a good, it's the first.

Speaker 5:

It's the first time I've ever paid attention to her. But, you know, I thought she was a double watcher before a long time and she's still dark.

Speaker 1:

Oh, she's dark, she's a troll.

Speaker 3:

She's a little dark one, so I don't know if she's teetaling or playing or whatever.

Speaker 5:

I don't like it. I don't play, I don't like it, but her songs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, that's where the spirit is. The spirit is lying in the visuals. It's in the visuals.

Speaker 4:

But that's the issue is the fact that if you listen to the songs, you'll be like, oh, this is dope, I like it. You can listen to the words. You don't feel no kind of way.

Speaker 1:

But then when you see this vision covered in fucking blood and you're like, there you go, because that paint the town red. The visual to that bitch I ain't ever watched it.

Speaker 5:

Whoa, yeah, yeah, exactly, but when you listen to the song you're like, oh, this is kind of this, that would be a great. That would be a great.

Speaker 4:

We ate a soundtrack bitch. I said what I said. Well, this was a great episode of we Ate Ladies. Thank you so much. Happy holidays to our listeners. I hope you have safe travels to the ladies of we Ate as y'all go off on your adventures and all have your good times. Make sure you put it in the group chat. Yeah, this was fantastic. We will see y'all next week.

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Generational Identity and Media Recommendations
Excitement for Christmas and Birthday Trip
Thanksgiving Meal Planning and Traditions
Holiday Decorating & Gift Giving Expectations
Music Industry's Artistic Evolution and Aging