Are you part of the Halloween costume die-hards who enjoy putting a unique spin on every outfit? If yes, then our latest We Ate podcast episode will thrill you! We're here to dissect the most creative costumes we've seen this Halloween, from Heidi Klum's elaborate peacock ensemble to Saweetie's hand and nail-themed costume.
If you've ever been to a Homecoming at a historically black college or university (HBCU), then you're well aware that it's not just an event—it's a rich cultural celebration. We're talking an explosive showcase of black excellence! It's almost magical how fashion takes center stage at HBCUs, transforming a traditional get-together into a vibrant spectacle.
We explore the idea of a designated "black homecoming," and the significance of creating safe spaces that celebrates blackness in all its glory. So, whether you've been to a PWI, an HBCU, or both, this conversation promises to be enlightening! Join us and let's unravel these significant cultural nuances.
Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
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Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
Are you part of the Halloween costume die-hards who enjoy putting a unique spin on every outfit? If yes, then our latest We Ate podcast episode will thrill you! We're here to dissect the most creative costumes we've seen this Halloween, from Heidi Klum's elaborate peacock ensemble to Saweetie's hand and nail-themed costume.
If you've ever been to a Homecoming at a historically black college or university (HBCU), then you're well aware that it's not just an event—it's a rich cultural celebration. We're talking an explosive showcase of black excellence! It's almost magical how fashion takes center stage at HBCUs, transforming a traditional get-together into a vibrant spectacle.
We explore the idea of a designated "black homecoming," and the significance of creating safe spaces that celebrates blackness in all its glory. So, whether you've been to a PWI, an HBCU, or both, this conversation promises to be enlightening! Join us and let's unravel these significant cultural nuances.
Like, subscribe and be on the look out for a new episode every week!
Credit and special thanks goes to:
Produced by: Aziza Duniani @woman_Business
Music supervisor: Chic loren @chicloren_
Music by: Gavin Williams @thegavin1
What's up y'all? This is Sheik Lorraine, Style and Music Creative, and welcome to We8. We're spilling a tea on all things fashion, film and television, giving you an exclusive peek into our perspective on style and design.
Speaker 2:Good morning. This is Winter. Alex, owner of the Manico, stylist, interior designer and costume designer to all.
Speaker 1:Hi. I'm Isi Chaville, costume designer, event producer and all around dot connector. I'm Mia Nunnally, costume designer and creative director. Good morning y'all. This is Isiza Duniani. I am a assistant costume designer, host and producer of the We8 podcast, ceo of Women Building Wealth Collective, and we are here for another episode of We8 podcast. It is now spooky season.
Speaker 1:Halloween was just a couple of days ago. Based off of whenever this episode comes out, we saw some fantastic things Our creative from our celebrities and from the little kids. Also, it was HBCU homecoming season and you know all of our girls are HBCU goers, alumni, whatever you want to say, but you know we fit the people. So we are going to be talking about our experiences, the fashion dress code, black excellence and how it all relates, in ceremony, to our black experience. Yeah, let's get the party started. Anybody have any notes or call outs for what they saw for Halloween, what they liked? I ain't really a Halloween girl, but you know I like to see how people get creative. I want to say I was a little disappointed at Heidi Klum this year because she's like the queen of Halloween. She always has like super elaborate costumes and this year it was like a group costume, so she was a peacock, but all the other people were like her feathers and stuff, so it was Did she fly?
Speaker 2:I was gonna say oh no, I mean Her stand alone without the other people is just kind of like blood. So you gotta walk around with all them people?
Speaker 1:Yes, and that's on them. They gonna have to follow me. Maybe it's because I'm anti-social and I don't want my Halloween costume to be a good project. You want to be touched? No, I know, but I mean it's really creative for you know, if you and your crew wanted to show up like that. But she always does it really good and also her crew, or did she hire them people? She?
Speaker 2:hired them. They're acrobats. They said that they hired acrobats. That's beautiful. That's all over her around, exactly. I mean, she's the queen of Halloween. Yeah, she does it every time. Who did it that's?
Speaker 1:her party. It's giving rich it's giving Ruth Carter who did that. Heidi Klum.
Speaker 2:Oh, you mean who designed it? Who designed it? I don't know. I don't know if she ever really shouts out to the designers.
Speaker 1:But her husband was an egg, so he was also a part of the costume. Yes, that was her husband, she not, was sealed. No more Wait, she's been not, was sealed no more. So she's trying to say that her husband is her Gucci fruit.
Speaker 2:I like saying that Basically.
Speaker 1:The only egg. No, she's a peacock, so she delivers eggs which is the husband. Which is the husband, ie your Gucci fruit. That's a little weird. That's out of line. Yeah, I don't think that's out of pocket shit. I thought the kids were the eggs. I think I also made it out of line.
Speaker 2:Yeah, y'all did. Y'all did because I don't think she thought any of that, she wouldn't even love it, but that does sound kind of emasculating.
Speaker 1:But when you look at the process of what she goes through to like transform into these things it is pretty extreme Last year when she was that warm. Was that last year it?
Speaker 2:was a couple years ago. It was so weird yeah I didn't like the warm, but she committed.
Speaker 1:She could. Yes, If anything, she did that. Yeah, she does the thing she does the thing, she really goes all out. I love that. So what do y'all think? Somebody sends over Quincy as Frida. I would say I send that over. That was a couple of years old, though, either was. Well, either way, it's a little drag, but when we're talking about creatively, he hit the nail on the head. He, he. This is a resemblance there there is. I don't know. Can you adjust this, frida collar?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for real. Yes, that's what I'm gonna see.
Speaker 1:I take it back. Up close, she looks amazing. You gotta take it back.
Speaker 2:I didn't see her up close. You look great either way. Let me see. Pull it up close. There's the husband I was in.
Speaker 1:He needed a black light to shine. What about the culture. Went to you, sent me Saweetie the other day. That was fly as it was. She's a hand, Yo Saweetie looks amazing.
Speaker 2:She has a wonderful hand. She looks great. She was, it was she's her hand, you know she has a thing with her nails, so she turned her nails into the it was.
Speaker 1:It was great, she did the job she made it sexy, she made it her own.
Speaker 2:That was a good job.
Speaker 1:Northwest was super cute too. She was current. Yeah, yo shout out to her and her mama. I guess that is him. Wow, wow, yeah, well, okay, it's like.
Speaker 2:I said it's a little drag, but they.
Speaker 1:This one's back in 2020. 2020. Mm-hmm, he looked way too comfortable. That's cause he hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 2:Let me see Cause his face is so brown.
Speaker 1:Well, his face is brown now.
Speaker 2:This is this is why I'm good with this. Prita is a little white lady she might be.
Speaker 1:Spanish, but she's white.
Speaker 2:He's way lighter than me Quincy little this. Quincy, not Quincy.
Speaker 1:Jones Diddy's on.
Speaker 2:That's not as nice as Quincy Jones, that don't look like him, I'll be Diddy.
Speaker 1:I'll be Diddy. I'll be Diddy.
Speaker 2:By way, by way of Diddy, by way of Diddy Did y'all hear that Diddy got a season assist from. Yeah, he couldn't do Joker From the studio. For yes, yeah, he thought he could play Joker. It's kind of an honor.
Speaker 1:It's like I've done so, you've done so well.
Speaker 2:Well, he told the Batman.
Speaker 1:So what did they say about that?
Speaker 2:I think his.
Speaker 1:I don't know Give me the backstory.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the backstory? Like he posted it he did it Like right here, cause he looked.
Speaker 1:He did Joker, like last year, the year before and Diddy always goes all out for his costume. He looked fantastic. He even did the little white face under the neck, yep, to show you wouldn't even know it was him and I guess the studio said him. Warner Brothers said him a season assist.
Speaker 2:And told him not to dress up as Joker. And told him not yep, he was too close to care. He said well, I'll be back.
Speaker 1:What yeah? I gotta read that letter, Diddy send me an email that over to me. I gotta look at that. He ain't show none of the details. He just said that it was a season assist and he said yep.
Speaker 2:I think Meg looked great. It's a little grimly. She was cute.
Speaker 1:She also looked good as the little, you know, the little flower.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she looked cute as a flower.
Speaker 1:Oh the okay, no anime the anime character. Thank you. I was like oh, I was gonna say hentai. I was gonna say Meg Mm-mm. Ooh, it's me, I'm telling you baby.
Speaker 2:That's not porn. That's not porn, that's not porn.
Speaker 1:That's not porn. That's not porn. Yeah, yeah, you gotta watch the babies.
Speaker 2:You gotta watch the babies with the hand-testing. You gotta watch the babies with the internet Period.
Speaker 1:You know, like showing me a new side of you that I didn't need to know.
Speaker 2:But you know what it is.
Speaker 1:I got a horror adventure. You don't know what it is. I did not, that could have been a form of meditation, for all I know.
Speaker 2:What's it called? I mean for some hentai.
Speaker 1:That could be a tea at a coffee shop Could be.
Speaker 2:It don't sound freaky at all. I don't know, it's hentai.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm. Yeah, yeah, it's a thing. Anyways, all right. Also, we just got off our homecoming season. We actually still in it a little bit, because as we're taping this. We got GHo is coming up, we got NCCU is coming up, we got all of the others.
Speaker 2:Really, they're coming up, they're coming up, they're coming up.
Speaker 1:I don't know, let's see, shout yourself out if you got the end of the month homecoming beginning of November, which I feel like do.
Speaker 2:I'm biased. I went to Howard Yall.
Speaker 1:I went to Howard Yall so I hit me up in that first couple of weeks of homecoming season. Then I'm out of there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:As the weather changed. Now I wouldn't want to be out there. I'm in a super cold.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be so many people out there, though you gonna warm up. I think it's gonna be too cold this weekend.
Speaker 1:I think we're gonna be all right, it goes back to like the 70s. I think, oh, that's nice, we like a teeter.
Speaker 2:This is a little bit of the flu season. Listen, take your Seamos.
Speaker 1:Hello, vitamin C. Shout out to God for giving us warm weekends. Yeah, Okay. So we could be outside proper. Yeah, so I attended Clark Atlanta's homecoming, which was two weekends ago now, and the weather was amazing it was high 70s, almost 80. It was a good time I did not attend. Sorry, I did not attend Clark Atlanta University. However, that was my 14th homecoming and I have not been to my own school's homecoming At this point. You go there.
Speaker 2:I go there.
Speaker 1:I got an honorary degree. I actually got outed by somebody.
Speaker 2:This year I saw it.
Speaker 1:I saw it, tyay outed me on a Facebook post and so many people came up to me like yo I legit thought you went to Clark and I was like nope. So today no memories of you actually being there in a moment, but they saw you at homecoming so many times yeah. I guess they probably thought that was like I remember you for sophomore year. No, they were like damn, we have a class together.
Speaker 2:And I know we never had no class together.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what your class rooms look like, so today I am wearing green to represent for my University that I do such which is poor job of wrapping. Norfolk State, savannah State.
Speaker 2:We don't even know it, we be doing it every week. Norfolk.
Speaker 1:State University in Norfolk, virginia, which, at the time that I was there, was the third largest HBCU, believe it or not.
Speaker 2:Oh but, it is not necessarily.
Speaker 1:I don't know, it's not a household name like that, unless you are from that region or you're into bands or Something like that. But yep, I attended Norfolk State University. They have one of the best bands in our HBCU Conglomerate. I think is it the Spartans or the Trojans. It is the Spartan Spartan Legion band. Shout out to them, quite nice my cousin graduated from Norfolk. Really, we went to his graduation many, many moons, many, many moons ago.
Speaker 1:Was it a moon when I was there, you definitely would not be, like he's way older than me. Oh, okay, yeah. So I was just about to say do y'all want to shout out like honorable mention, alumni from your school? And I realized we don't have nothing like that.
Speaker 1:So I'm gonna just we have Tim reed. Who Tim reed? He went there. I ain't got nobody. My school we're, we're going up. Yeah, we get in there. Yeah, a lot of auntie. Jesse Jackson, okay, teraji went there. For a moment I was gonna say don't you dare, left.
Speaker 2:JR Smith isa.
Speaker 1:Player wait, is that a basketball?
Speaker 2:He's a current student.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's a current student there. He plays for the golf team. There's a really good documentary of him on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 2:I saw that, so he went back to college, right?
Speaker 1:Can we talk about them grown up, not mistaken he went like he went straight out of high school to leave you. A couple people have been doing that. Yeah, Nick Cannon did that. He was a Howard. When I was a Howard.
Speaker 2:Good morning that he.
Speaker 1:Big Nair. We have a school named after him.
Speaker 2:My near high school is indicator try out to all those great. Aggies, who I did not mention, and you gonna, you going to Hong Kong?
Speaker 1:Up, the all three of us are pulling up. I'm saying it Damn, why be feeling like okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah really we haven't been, or I can at least speak, for some say I haven't been since 2016 and you know, and see what happens, see what we can fall into. We might fall into the four seasons with the old heads and have a grand time.
Speaker 2:Four seasons sounds sexy and we not yeah we're grown like we fit.
Speaker 1:I don't know, maybe it's a little older, so we're gonna find something to get into. We gonna have a good time regardless. Aggie pride I'm curious head on a day because you, at you, the, you're the Aggie G-Ho greatest homecoming of all time Don't try a lot, you have no. I'm going to ask a leading question why? What makes y'all the greatest homecoming of all time? Like what is y'all's thing? You know what I'm saying, cuz even when I was in high school I have berries.
Speaker 1:I mean I high school, when I was at Howard I would hear G-Ho and people would go down to G-Ho after our homecoming. But, like, when they came back, what? No stories. I was just curious what is y'all selling point? They probably weren't with the right people, mm-hmm, honestly, it's just like the yard is just on fire and it's really no explaining it for me. Like it's just on fire, it's always a good time, like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, yeah, and I'm an enormous amount of beautiful black people and so many celebrate different things going on, and I know that probably sounds like everybody else's homecoming, but it's not. Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 1:It's structure and again you have, because I've been to Howard's homecoming but that was like my freshman year, but we weren't with the right people so I did not enjoy myself at all. So it really I think anytime you go to someone else's school you need to be with the right people so that you can make sure you're in the mix and enjoy yourself. Yeah, I'm the right, the right scenes, because if you're not in the scenes you want to be, you know flat, I mean quick, especially if you don't know nobody exactly.
Speaker 2:but she came with us one year and I've been twice and we had a great time. It was okay. I've never been, but I want to go.
Speaker 1:It's so what it is is, as someone coming from the outside of Anti, is it's just the city in itself, is it's North Carolina a and it's Greensboro too. Everyone is celebrating that. If you're into, if you're, I stand by this. If you do not go to the school, have not been to the school, it's you don't, and even if you're around the right people is okay, you know, it still feels you still feel like an outsider and you feel you still feel like, well, it's just a whole bunch of people here. Yeah, that's if you're into that, you know a whole bunch of Like here with Spell House, you have what.
Speaker 2:What was going on this weekend when Spell House, you had one minute music festival.
Speaker 1:You had Clark Atlanta, which was the week before, you had a more, more. It was like three things Halloween party.
Speaker 2:Party was on fire this weekend, so you have a multitude of things to do versus it just being this one thing people come from all over North Carolina, everywhere you know.
Speaker 1:I understand that if it is a smaller town I can see it.
Speaker 2:Like there are no hotels available. Yeah, even in Durham is not. Yeah, yeah, which is 45 minutes away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll go ahead and I was just gonna say, and T is, I think I see mentioned Norfolk State being number three, I think. And T and fam, you are like one and two in terms of the biggest HBC use in our Conglomerate yeah, they are huge. You know, mean by by population, by number, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:So I will say Things have changed, I mean with the pandemic. So like when I get there the culture may not be what I'm familiar with. Like we used to have a very specific spot by the plots where everybody yeah, hall, you would just see a just a cloud of smoke over everybody.
Speaker 1:Yes, but it was a good time. The music was hitting like it every. It was just it's an energy, yeah, and if you Can connect to that energy, you probably had a good time. The fish plates are always hitting, you know. Now things are different where, like I believe, a lot of people now go to the games and they, you know, put a lot of vendors Now in the stadium where, as it was, just taken over the whole street.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's gonna be different when we go, but I just kind of have the Mindset of regardless, I'm gonna have a good goddamn time.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:This is gonna start being my holiday away from the kids and Fam, like this is where I went to school. I'm gonna make it a thing. I'm gonna make it a thing and my grown-grown age, I've decided to make it.
Speaker 2:As you should go into every homecoming since she's graduated. Wow, every every single year she goes to homecoming. And now it's it, and so her husband went to A&T as well. So now their whole family go and it's an on trend tradition for their family. They never miss a year.
Speaker 1:I ain't going my baby, but I definitely make it a thing. Yeah, I was shot to see how many people had children out there and was it a lot? It was enough. It was enough. Smaller children now I can see like your teenage kid, yeah, maybe saying like hey, here's a little taste, I see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said I was gonna take Lord to probably spell house next year or something, so he can just get a feel for it. Yeah, yeah, cuz I don't know if he's gonna go to HBCU, so I want him to at least be tapped into the culture we're taking, my niece and she goes to Duke, we're gonna take her.
Speaker 1:The reason why I'm going to A&T, it's because we're gonna take her to NCCU, north Carolina Central University, which is around the corner. Shout out to Hamsan. Yep and um, then we're gonna go to ANT the next day so she can feel that experience. But I want to give a special shout out to the number one HBCU. That who's ranking? Yeah, who's ranking. I mean it's on here, it's been number one for 16 years and I want to say, oh, spellman Girl, back and forth, spellman.
Speaker 1:No, it's not no no, no, that who's ranking? Hold on, wait a minute. That's not what we're talking about. Is that where she introduced her school. I mean, I have to say Y'all have a job point to say number three, you know, and then number two.
Speaker 1:But to be fair, as Aziza and I spoke, when you put a school full of black women and we get the shit done, clearly and it's 2000 students versus your 20,000, your 15,000, your whatever, and that's just freshman. Sorry, your number that you just quoted, your fall enrollment for freshman, for Spellman, is like 2000. Ant's like 11,000 and it is the bigger.
Speaker 2:So yeah, based off of yeah.
Speaker 1:But regardless, it is also black women and so you know, as we all sit here, as black women, you know that we're going to get a gun, and if you put a school full of that, clearly number one. But anyway, shout out to All right now, talk your shit, yeah.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Spellman College. You know the illustrious Spellman College. I'm all right, we're going to let you have that tip, because I 1000% agree with black women getting it done every time. We're going to excel. Yeah, we excel. Thank you to Eric College. I'm just going to be the haters. No but that's true. That's true that women in every college are kids. But if we talk, about volume, like she said, if the volume is all accelerants and then we have some slackers you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we only do the best of the best of the black women.
Speaker 2:And what would you say about these babies on the yacht?
Speaker 1:Um, ooh, I should. Okay, she said there's always haters. Let's let Spellman have his shine. There's always haters. I see all Spellman super hard.
Speaker 2:Because of my. I'm going to let Mia have her shine. They got a sneaker. They have a sneaker out. Yeah, yeah, tell us how you feel about the sneaker.
Speaker 1:I don't know anything about a sneaker. I mean a sneaker.
Speaker 2:The only thing I know is when, ralph.
Speaker 1:Lauren did that really nice collection last year that was. That was, this is so indicative of what the world is. You know, black women are tearing each other down and the most hated group of people, so it's not surprising that my counterpart here, I see, is going to hate on so many college. I was silent. So, I was trying to be silent.
Speaker 2:So piggyback off what you just said, the quarterback of the Eagles, the beautiful black man. What's his name? Anybody know his name, we all know his name, which I don't know Chad, the quarterback of the Eagles.
Speaker 1:I know Donovan McNabb.
Speaker 2:And had a whole appreciation pose for black women. He was like I see you, I love you, I appreciate you.
Speaker 1:Let's sing a black girl to Spellman College Jaylin Hurts. Jaylin Hurts, shout out to.
Speaker 2:Jaylin Hurts for showing love to where he comes from.
Speaker 1:Okay, what can I?
Speaker 2:do with Spellman. He was talking about black women.
Speaker 1:I know we just talked about you guys just mentioned your notable you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, we ain't got to do that. We weren't at a time, but I was.
Speaker 1:I was just saying way too many to mention, but it is a lot. It is a lot. But Spellman is, we have our things. We celebrate our homecoming with Morehouse obviously our brothers and you know our homecoming is small because 2000 students at Spellman, maybe 2000 at Morehouse. You know it doesn't look like A&T but we do have a very traditional special homecoming where the A&T is doing their fish plates. We're doing the lobsters and the shrimps there. Really, yeah, that's what we're doing. So really New, hey, hey, hey. So I was watching the reaction. Again, you have 500 alumni that comes. Who's about to bring?
Speaker 2:this farm raised. Lobster Farm raised lobster and shrimp.
Speaker 1:Number two Talk your shit, Howard, Because we got you know what I'm saying. We got a lot of people who about to eat a million farm raised lobsters Not farm raised, not farm raised. No, I'm going to hop on the lobster back because at our tailgate we definitely had the queues. We had some lobster gumbo, we definitely had a couple fish fries. We got a little bit of everything.
Speaker 2:So I think that's Howard. We're talking to Howard University here. Howard University we're talking about Both winning. Both winning oh shout out Hampton Institute Farm raised H-U. Oh yeah, h-i, yeah, h-u.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Hampton Institute oh, shut up. You got to know us, shout out to Hampton Institute Our Notables.
Speaker 2:If you, let's start at the top depending on your oh, we got all day I'll give you top five.
Speaker 1:I'll give you top five For right now we could give Kamala, even though you might have your preferences, she did come out of Howard. She was my commencement speaker. We have your I don't want to say Diddy, he's honorary mentioned because they gave him his degree later. Felicia Rashad, in her sister, debbie Allen you know, shot top, shot us.
Speaker 1:And the late Chadler Boseman. You know We'll just give you the tops for now. Good, I mean because we can do. Andrew Young, we can, you know. Elijah Cummings, we can go down the list, you know. I want to say that Debbie Allen's husband, norm Nixon, actually did it, my mother who?
Speaker 2:is also a spellman woman, I'm just saying so, I'm just you know, I know how it had to be Objection no relevancy.
Speaker 1:Who did he marry? He did, oh okay, no relevance.
Speaker 2:He married a Howard woman. Okay.
Speaker 1:Zora, no Hurston, if you may.
Speaker 2:Okay, Like there's so many we don't have to. Thank you to the ancestors who ran and so we could walk, or whatever.
Speaker 1:Shout out to Homecoming Homecoming even though I didn't fully participate because I had a my business opened on U Street so if you live in DC there's a creative studio Opulent Society on U Street. Check that out. But Homecoming this year, dope, we had Diddy perform or host. I would say he was emceeing, he emceed. We had our girl with the mama, Alma.
Speaker 2:Victoria Victoria Monet. She graduated, she just performed Just performed.
Speaker 1:So we have like a free concert for the community called Yardfest and every year there is, you know, a very beautiful lineup of people. My freshman year, actually, drake showed up and that I don't know. That was next level madness. But um, I wanted to say real quick, if we could all talk about the experience of aging and going back to your Homecoming, because I think there's something there where, like you were the it girl for your, for your block, and then when you come back and you see the other it girls of the generations below you and you'd be like look at, look at, look at great value I see over there.
Speaker 1:It's like, but then you're older too. So the whole experience. So I just saw a viral video for Nerfist States Homecoming where they tore a whole fence down. I don't know what happened. It was like that school that was Nerfist State. The girl across the fence I saw that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were like no.
Speaker 1:I'm not crossing the fence they lifted up a barricade and everybody went running through it and I was just like if I was out there I would be so mad because as an almost 40 year old woman, I don't want to be intermingling with foolishness like that. So it's like as you get older how do you so? Full of foolishness and you and, like y'all said, you have to redirect to what your funk is.
Speaker 2:Like I think that's the thing, but they outnumber us though.
Speaker 1:They outnumber us and the foolishness is still circumventing, like your pocket of like maturity. But that's what they're supposed to do? And you're supposed to be in your tent in your lobsters and fried chicken in your corner.
Speaker 2:The lobsters. Is that? Spell man In powder, Go ahead.
Speaker 1:She can tell me what you got. Was it with lobster collards? Lobster collards, where the hell were they trying to get into? I mean, what was it? I can't tell. It looked like they kind of blocked off part of the camp?
Speaker 2:No, it looked like they blocked off.
Speaker 1:It was the tailgate.
Speaker 2:So it was just a massive amount of people in the yard. What then? Why was that? Over, I don't know what it was, but I guess it was like I would not have wanted to be there in that foolishness.
Speaker 1:Even the parties, so like there's like the young, still in college, freshly graduated, nightlife scene during homecoming. And then there's just like the okay, we ain't trying to be trapped out, we eat smoke or whatever party. And then there's like the older alumni, we gonna put on Frankie, beverly and Mays white suits type party. So it's kind of like when you're in between some of those ages, like I ain't trying to, you know, Do the bus stop an electric slide all night. But I also don't want to like swag surf all night. So I think that there's always like she could was saying there's always a pocket for that. Like you, when I go I don't even really see the young kids until we get to the yard or maybe we might be at the tailgate Briefly and I'm just looking at the fashions, but I'm still minding my business with my people. And then, when it comes to Nightlife, I'm only going where the DJs of my class, the hottest DJs from my class, or in our DJ People are throwing parties.
Speaker 2:The promoters from my that I know that are in my peer group. I'm only going to those, so I don't even see, yeah like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I ain't going. To do is all love. That's the beautiful thing about homecoming. Yes, because you don't know because you don't go to your homecoming. I have yeah, it might not be mine, but I have not missed the year of homecoming. But then it's all love to it.
Speaker 1:But, as the wife of a party promoter, I feel like there is that segment of people who get left out though of light, because party promoters you need volume, so depending on the type of promoter or whatever. So there's usually two big parties for Clark specifically. There's the young, you know, hippity hop party, and then there's like the, you know, we not old but we still pretty much going to give you the hippity hop party, but we just 45 year old men doing this.
Speaker 1:They just need to step it up because I feel like they need more options for y'all because Howard all spell men and a Ant all these places are gonna have so many options in our school, so do the things you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's just me and maybe it's me. Maybe I feel like that age group or Mindset because not really age group is a mindset like what vibe am I trying to be on? Like? I do want to turn up a little bit, but I don't want we smoke blown in my face all night. I don't want a hookah being passed around. I don't want.
Speaker 2:So maybe just me man, also your class, your husband. I y'all smoke hookah and do we also your Like your husband's group Might be like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Not to be like that, but like your husband's older than you, so we go to his Homecoming festivities. It'll be for that older class.
Speaker 2:No, girl they be turning up.
Speaker 1:No, his parties be to swag surf all night. No, but I'm saying even still, though, like the intermediate of where you are at might be, if you were at your school, you know, I'm saying you might fit right into your people and be like oh, this is exactly what I was looking for. You might not see such a polarizing difference between like young young kids and like Norfolk. State they, they got to have to.
Speaker 2:Will be there next year.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be there so let's be able to circle this back, yeah and not to spell man, but yes, from an angle of like how what we put on once we get there, because no matter what we went, hbc use the fashions has always hit. You know I'm not surprised if them now from Balenciaga is secretly sitting in the trenches over how we're trying to figure out what his next collection gonna look like.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, it's the thing you know so, like I think, in terms of aging, I think we put that shit on, we want to convey a certain something, yeah.
Speaker 2:Excellent, a lot of excellence, progression.
Speaker 1:So we, so you want to come. And I remember when I was a younger Spellman grad, you know, coming to Spellman and looking at the older women, like did, like diddies, baby mama, and the women who went on from Spellman to Mary or fuck or whatever, these rich men, whatever it is, and how they look, and they look like money, without so much of the bullshit. They just looked and just exuded richness and like I just, and it was all. It'll remain very classy and it would mean tasteful, understated. It was like a quiet luxury before that shit became a thing. Yeah, and that's what the look I was going for when I wanted to go to home, coming that I did not make. What about this week? This week I want to be comfortable, chic when I go to, because again, I didn't go to auntie.
Speaker 2:So you're not really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the pressure is in there from a bagship but, I, still want to remain Mia, so I think I'm just gonna do a Balenciaga. Look very dark, understated in the trenches, you know, shades. I think you inspire by him Exactly, but he is gonna be spying on all of us. I'm sure it's interesting you say that because I'm only like six years removed from.
Speaker 2:Graduating and.
Speaker 1:I definitely was. It was more hot girl. I did want to do the like Luxury thing. So I would put on like a heel with the jean, with the cute coat and a nice little blouse and then club was. When I go to the club it would be I'd be giving it all, but for the yard or for the tailgate. This year I went so modest, quiet, luxury kind of vibe, like I had a Kate like long sleeve sweater dress type situation with a trench coat and like Some cowboy boots, like really I did really modest this year. And I look back at my patients I'm like green, show no skin and I think I was trying to do the quiet, luxury vibe.
Speaker 2:Like here I am versus here I am.
Speaker 1:But then I realized it kind of translated, because when I ran into some people.
Speaker 2:They were like great rich and I'm like, yeah, Thanks you also there to open up your business, like you were there. I wasn't there to party, but I did want to be a hot girl.
Speaker 1:So speaking of high, girls. I was good today in a second. I was talking to a friend last night who was at Norfolk States Homecoming. She said you know, um, I was sitting at cities to older women and it was like I ain't seen a bra all day, just titties everywhere just bouncing and da, da, da.
Speaker 1:But I feel like and again, maybe I just have become the old hoe on campus because I'll be looking at them like the same way, like Tennis skirts, child, if I see another tennis shirt, tennis skirts with the cheats out, crop tops with the nipples out, it's like you still should be represented. Yeah, representing like I'm a college educated person or or I don't know, like the professionalism or like. No, if I went to Howard we had to wear suits to class. Was homecoming comes?
Speaker 1:That's a good story I wanted my ass and titties out, crop tops, yeah, everything was out like I'm. When I was in school. You know what I'm saying? That was like how I was, like you were in college, be. Yeah, when I was a college student I was like be free. And then, once I left school, then it was like okay, quiet, luxury.
Speaker 1:Isabel morons you know, let's do that kind of vibe. But like I had to check myself because I said the same thing to Mia and I said it to my friends I was like, yeah, if I see another butt cheek out with these tennis skirts, I'm going to go crazy. But I was like agitated at first and then I was like you turn it into the old home, yeah.
Speaker 2:Welcome to my world.
Speaker 1:I think it's an age thing now, because you're looking at them as you, each year that you go back to homecoming. It is that same age demographic of 18 to 22 year olds, but you get older every year. So, as you're going back in your emersion, this culture of 18 to 22 year olds, and now you're 26, now you're 30, now You're 34, now you're 38, and you, like god dang, like it's still that core group of like kids that eventually I went into a classmates, I Son, who was an alpha, and I said hold up, have I reached?
Speaker 1:that age. Yes, to where I have peers who have students in college like I am not that old. I know I'm not that old, he's a little older but anyway. But yeah, I think as you get older and just like the maturity, you don't need to do all of that. I take inspiration from the young kids like.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's very important to look at these 18, you know, 15, 16 to 22 year olds and you're like, okay, this is what they're wearing, because we're our at the end of the day. We are, you know, costume designers, or, you know, most of us are costume designers, and it's very important to To kind of take ourselves out of that, yeah, and say, oh, okay, so this is the.
Speaker 2:This is the thing for that yeah. So all the influencers who they are paying attention to they're gonna emulate, yeah, they're walking around. They look cheap, sound. They're looking at this girl's. They go home right back and put the shark boots on. Yeah, she's a little, or it's a tennis skirt, they can afford it and crop top. Yeah, and he bouncing around like, hey, I'm here, yeah, cuz Jada just had it on and here and also that's what their representation of sexy is.
Speaker 1:So that when you go into these fittings or you have these characters that you have to build out for sure, and you're like, and they're like I want to be sexy, and then whatever our vision is sexy, is we got to be able?
Speaker 2:to be like and put it and be like right now she's out. Yeah, it comes through conversation as well like okay, who are you paying attention to? Yeah, you gotta talk to you guys to chat with them girls, yeah, I do now.
Speaker 1:I just want to record estate I'm not talking about from an inspiration of life. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about as oh aging woman out there, I don't want to see y'all out here like that, but I do like it for the inspiration of like just knowing what the younger generation is doing, yeah, and being able to say like, okay, this is what they consider to be hot right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like oh my god at first for sure, but then I was like In the weed smoke, oh my god, and someone who does not partake of the devil's lettuce. I was half a phone a.
Speaker 2:It didn't work. I just felt high but not really.
Speaker 1:No, it was just weed everywhere. Why Legalized?
Speaker 2:even I wanted to call the cops.
Speaker 1:I'm like Homecoming. It was one music fest this weekend Sound like. Just start going to dinner when you have an inkling to go to these festivals, to go to, just go to dinner Anyway let me go back quickly as we go around the room of what we wore.
Speaker 1:It's for Clark's homecoming. Oh, for my own personal homecoming, when I do go back, and I intentionally, I intentionally go back Periodically because I have to make the people miss me, period, I have to make the people miss me. So, every five to six years, the people at which one and Norfolk state so every five or six years, when I do make an appearance, I'm going to make an appearance. So are you going next year?
Speaker 2:I'm going next year. Yes, for sure next year.
Speaker 1:So, but when I go back, my sole purpose is the sun on these holes. I'm back, that is my sole purpose, and I just talked to my best friend because I'm like dang, like we should have gone. She's like girl, my body ain't right for this year, like I just had a baby. I got to go back next year and so there is a little element of that when you're like going to homecoming of like. I want my ex to see me and be like dang.
Speaker 2:I chose wrong.
Speaker 1:I want the girl who was mean to me to be like shoe, like she look good Right, all of that, but for Clark Atlanta. I just kept it simple because I didn't go there, but I wore a black slip dress and then I had a red, fluffy, puffy, a cardigan not cardigan sweater that I wore off the shoulder and it was cute. You didn't look like a alpha wife. I've only dated alphas all my serious relationship.
Speaker 1:Even before my husband there's not, that's not, I did not. First of all, that's the only time we can track that you have Actually dated Iota too. Oh my god, don't do that. But I will say, shout out to Norfolk State, because our iotas were actually. They were small but mighty. They had the best party hops, they had the best strolls. They were, they were, they were tight. At Norfolk State I feel like they don't have none.
Speaker 2:They only children.
Speaker 1:I felt like they had. They had something to prove and they definitely. What about them?
Speaker 2:That's the capos. Yeah, are you for real? Yeah, the capos are brothers with this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I see, okay, all of this is me. Find me ease on here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Different.
Speaker 2:Into it.
Speaker 1:I got approached I went to something that was not. I went to an interest meeting.
Speaker 2:I missed it. I saw they were.
Speaker 1:So what are y'all wearing?
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, listen Is it a comfort or to stop.
Speaker 2:We do both, you need both cuz a, you know for me.
Speaker 1:So it's funny because we were out yesterday and I found a really great shoe that was perfect for what I wanted to achieve, because I am very small and pit it. I need something you know like I don't want to be looking like a little book because you know I'm a little stout, chill in the right place, you know, depending on what I wear like it just don't hit the same.
Speaker 1:I need that elevated look. So I Found a really great pair of heels yesterday. Didn't get them, it's alright, but they were Suede, black, suede lace-up boot by Todd's, something like that, you know, like a elevated hill, but with some weight, nothing skinny. I can't be.
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's all I wanted class.
Speaker 1:I wore a three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to do that and I don't know if you remember those little those.
Speaker 1:Flat kittens with the little baby nip, those with the nipple heels. Yeah, I had, like a little pink pointed to a little slight square.
Speaker 2:Sit you out.
Speaker 1:The tight is that toward the blue shoe? Look down. I was in heels all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did heels, all the time, every day.
Speaker 1:Every day, huh. But that's goliosis now, because I've been. But in terms of what I would wear, I just want to look great, I want to be comfortable, I want to be sexy, make you know. So I still got it. I'm grown.
Speaker 2:Make them drool, baby, make them drool but.
Speaker 1:I still got it and I'm, you know, a little elevated as well. So we'll see how that look comes together, because I want to have a look for the other yard and something to wherever I fall into Saturday night. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And maybe a little brunch vibe.
Speaker 1:Who the hell knows. You should have all of them. I'm going to have all the looks which I'll be prepared.
Speaker 2:We're going to be there for brunch. I don't know where we're going to be doing. Just be ready.
Speaker 1:Okay, just have your fits Okay.
Speaker 2:What you doing, Wynter.
Speaker 1:What you going to put on. I don't know, I'm going to be great though.
Speaker 2:I know that's right. I'm going to try to pull some Together. It's going to be fantastic. Huh, I know that's right.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to a PWI football game guys.
Speaker 2:How fun is that You're going to go to a football game and sit out in that cold yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. So then now I'm thinking about, like, we talk about HBCUs, but then when we talk about HBCUs, the PWI come to mind. The PWI schools do not come to mind until you have to enter those institutions and you realize, oh shit, I ain't got to think about it as hard. They don't care, they don't wear a hoodie, a pair of jeans, but I can't. I don't want to do that. I still want to come in a PWI school and they look like they should have up here at school. You should wear some spellman paraphernalia.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I think you should translate whatever you were going to do for Aggie and do it there too.
Speaker 2:Like because they don't care about themselves, they don't care about, they don't give a shit. That's nice. That's a good thing about packing and traveling. When I do pack a look, I pack the entire like it's an aesthetic, so it's not all over the place, but whenever I bring, it's pieces that can be interchangeable. For sure so if she is doing a Balenciaga, look, she's probably going to pack a corny. So it's going to tell a story the entire time, the entire weekend, yeah, yeah, because it has to make sense. Commit to the bid yeah.
Speaker 1:But the PWIs are doing their own black homecoming stuff Did you all see that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I was going to say. The Black Student Units, the Black Student Units, they pull together and they have their own homecoming, that's nice I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I think it's kind of corny, but the only thing is though it sounds corny, but at the same time, if your homecoming is corny, like I saw a Tex homecoming, I don't want to go to that. I don't want to see a rock shit. I don't want to drink beer and get bumped around. I want to get you cute. I want to step out. I want to hear my music Drink up you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Have the cues hopping around Like you got to kind of create that atmosphere, if the atmosphere of the school is so Caucasian. I will say if you go to a PWI near a historical black institution. Just take gas over the North.
Speaker 1:Carolina ANT or whatever, and do the things instead of because I feel like you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with creating your own, because if you're like a black student union or something on a predominantly white campus, but you still have black culture, because we black people, we got black organizations, we got black Greek letter organizations, like I don't think there's, I don't like the. Let's call it the black homecoming. No, let's make it like black student union week or something like that when you make it like a black homecoming, then I feel like that's divisive.
Speaker 1:Now I feel like that's like segregating yourself from the rest of the culture and discriminatory, because you are discriminated. Discrimination works both ways, yeah, but sometimes segregation.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you need segregation for ceremony Like, the culture is different.
Speaker 1:The culture is different, but I don't think that's discrimination. I'm not saying you ain't good over there I'm just saying what I need over here.
Speaker 1:I'm saying if you call it by a certain name, then that becomes discrimination. I just said I led with call it black student union week, call it whatever. But when you start to make it like black homecoming, so like in Atlanta, in Norfolk we had Old Dominion University which is like super PWI college down the street from our school and a lot of those guys who were like alphas or cues or whatever from that school or Greek like or black students who didn't get that because a lot of PWIs don't have football teams so a lot of them have their homecoming.
Speaker 2:They do.
Speaker 1:That's the majority of them have football teams. No, I'm saying there's, there's okay. Some colleges don't have a football team. So for the black students? So, like my cousin Jason went to George Mason but he's always at Howard's homecoming and I told him that was cultural appropriation because he didn't go there and he went to a PWI. But the point is they don't have a, they don't have a homecoming at George Mason because they don't have a football team. George Mason is a small school too, though. So they all, like the black people from George Mason, go to the neighboring black colleges for that experience. So, like I lost my point, what the hell is all my? I don't think it's a, I don't, I think it's. If you're segregating yourself, that's fine, like because it's all ceremony. Like we say, we're getting a spiritual rejuvenation from these homecoming experiences and if that's what you need, because cold playing hitting for you.
Speaker 2:I like the PWI homecoming then you don't have to do what you don't have to do, but I also get with, so it's OK.
Speaker 1:But also I'm talking about ceremony. The ceremony, cold playing never hit my spirit. I might bounce to the tune, but that's about it. You know what I'm saying. So, like, if you need to create a space because you might not be in proximity of these HBCUs, do what you got to do because, like I mean, I'm sure your niece can benefit from a little HBCU.
Speaker 2:She needs it. That's why they're going up there. She needs the cultural experience.
Speaker 1:But it depends on how I'm being. I know you just said this Before you beat the devil out of him. You've already said a lot. Who cares on what you call the black homecoming experience? Like separate because we need the. We always create our own culture. We've always had to create our own culture. That's the reason for HBCUs in the first place. So if you are at a PWI, have those moments. If it's called the black homecoming, who gives a damn it?
Speaker 2:That's why it is.
Speaker 1:Marketing how you may, but like, as long as the people show up and hey, if the white, white students want to come, they cool, they with shits, come on. They don't say you can't come, but it's called us creating our own space and it's a safe space.
Speaker 2:That's what they're all. Black student union. I don't care about the creative space.
Speaker 1:Now let me go back.
Speaker 2:You just care about the marketing and what they call it.
Speaker 1:My devil's horns back on. I just want to say this in closing I do believe that if you came from a predominantly black primary school, like K through 12 was black. I think that there is HBCU culture ain't for everybody, or not?
Speaker 1:It's not for everybody but those schools. I think that we always put an emphasis on our children going to HBCUs and I know that you cannot take away from that experience. I know I, you know, love my HBCU experience. However, I also just wanted to state that if you are already immersed in the culture from your mama, your community, your, your high school, all of that, then to not discount PWIs and finding community at those PWIs, because there's still going to be black people there, there's just going to be more work. Why got to be more work?
Speaker 2:Why wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:be. Where is this?
Speaker 2:coming. Where is this going? Because I feel like I'm about to get really irritated.
Speaker 1:No, I was going to say that for your, for your, for your niece right, your niece went to a black school here in Atlanta.
Speaker 2:K through 12. Yep.
Speaker 1:She's now going to PWI. I think that is great, that she's going to HBCU Okay Homecoming experience. But what I'm saying is she already knows that culture she know drama.
Speaker 2:It's totally different. She know it's a little different.
Speaker 1:I also went through K through 12 black, very Atlanta.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Very, atlanta had, no, did not see white people. Yeah, never. I saw a lot. Then I went to Spelma College. Had saw a few. You know, I don't feel like I missed out on anything. I don't feel, I don't, I don't understand.
Speaker 2:From going to PWI the idea of the diversity and all that shit. I you know from not going to PWI.
Speaker 1:I also want to say I also want to say I, oh, I'm going to keep it back to this thing on the list is ceremony, so it might not be. Oh, it's okay to go to a PWI, that's cool. Keep your option open.
Speaker 2:If they got a better, if they got a better program, cool, whatever, but let's be clear, like going to.
Speaker 1:I went black schools, home school, black folk, black folk, black folk. That's my life in a little bit of Mexican folk. That's just why I grew up around. But going to a HBCU did not discount my experience of like a larger world. For one, for two, it's the Energy, how my spirit connects on a day-to-day basis. Now, being outside of my parents house, Living on my own, how I feel I can, I can be, my cup can be filled up because I had a posse scholarship to go to Syracuse. Posse the posse scholarship is basically they get black kids from all over the country. They put them in a group together. It's like a click. Then they send you to these PWY's and all the people from the posse scholarship. It's like a diversity scholarship.
Speaker 2:Why is your posse? That's because real right.
Speaker 1:But listen, listen, this is your posse. So this becomes their black student union at whatever these universities are. I turned it down because I said I don't want to be cold and I don't want to be in a space where I don't feel Comfortable like homely. Not I'm uncomfortable around white people, but just like I want my spirit to be filled up, right. So I went to Howard, had to pay the money, do all the things. But now my cup is filled. My homegirls I got the same friends from day one. I got started businesses from get money with them. I laughed, crying, fought with them. You know what I'm saying and you that experience.
Speaker 1:To be able to not have to search. I shouldn't have to be spending time Searching for community when I'm should be educated. I should just be getting my education. That's the only thing that you have to.
Speaker 1:Also, when we're saying like, oh, there's space for you to go to a PWY and that's great, it is a beautiful thing, but also see how Community plays into who you are as a person and how you like. Do you want to spend time searching for community and dealing with that Social construct, in addition to what it takes to be living on your own in a new place, educating yourself and staying on point Okay, cool. We really do have to discount. We have to account for both things on our list of pros and cons when we're looking for these institutions, because you can also feel very Ostracized, very lonely, disconnected from your the food, the people, the communication. Like do I want to have to put this voice on or do Do I feel like I'm my full self and comfortable? You're already learning, like going to college, you really I can speak for self like that's a whole new level of self that you're learning.
Speaker 2:Yes, and like.
Speaker 1:Depending on who you are like, your journey is going to be different, but you are really learning yourself. Yes so to have when you're dealing with that kind of thing where you have to code, switch, do all the things you like. Well, she look like am. I, yeah, I know, you know, and I'm not saying that you can't have an identity at a PWY, but like you don't have to fight for your identity, because even if you grew up in a strong household, like I did, my parents did a number on me.
Speaker 1:I know I'm gonna still be a Ziza in this, in these white institutions, that wouldn't have been a problem. But will I have to explain myself? Well, I have to, like you know what I'm saying. Double down I'm either gonna have to buck up and be extra, extra Aziza or just be like no, it's just what it is today like, and the black excellence is real at HBC.
Speaker 1:I mean, come on, like we said we talked about the other day, like how you just have to come to a HBC, you, and it's expected to be excellent. Yeah, don't expect to be like all in, they give me a scholarship it's filming. No, because everybody needs a scholarship at spell me because everybody, everybody is that girl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's not like a, you know you cut you. There's this misconception that you go to a peak, you go to out of a HBC and you're not gonna be into that. You can't come by, compete or be. You know. You don't know how to talk to white, so give the fuck. Why Is that our matters?
Speaker 2:no it doesn't need to be able to talk to us. I don't care about, but they don't need to talk to us. Be clear we gotta talk to this very clear institutions.
Speaker 1:These institutions college Universities these are still of the system institutions.
Speaker 1:These are not Afro-centered Institutions even if you call them at HBCU like they're teaching us how to be good workers, good corporate people. They are not teaching us to be independent entrepreneurial bosses, right? They're not actually teaching us to be diddy diddy drop the fuck out. He said I don't need this shit, right? So there's still a lot of Institutional things that come from these universities and a lot of these universities. Howard, all of our Otis Howard.
Speaker 1:Howard created Howard University as an institution for preachers and teachers to teach people how to be like Regal. You know what I'm saying regularly teach the people, wash the clothes, preach to the people. That's an institutional thing. So even when we're talking about institutional racism, a lot of these universities Already started off on some like let's create sheep, so let's. You know I'm for real like universities period.
Speaker 1:So you're still gonna get that level of like Corporate speak. Howard is still gonna make sure you have to wear a suit with stockings and you have to speak a certain way and then we're gonna do interview prep so you learn how to speak and do all of these things. But outside of that, the cultural experience is going to lift you up in another way when there's a balance. But if you go to a PWI and you're like learning those things that are Institutional and across the board for every university, and then you go outside and then there's no nothing to fill you up on the other end, then it's like an imbalance. So that's something else you have to think about. These are not African institutions that were created from black people from sedge segregation.
Speaker 1:Like a Tuskegee or like other places that have more brown. Morris Brown that have black. Yeah, that's a different conversation, but they're still trying to fit in an institution that creates followers.
Speaker 2:You know that's a child's the rocker.
Speaker 1:It wasn't found about a rocker fell. Anyway, that's my tip. I'm fine. Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 2:They just trying to create workers, no matter what. So what you want? To be a white worker.
Speaker 1:You want to be a black worker? Yeah, that like Honestly, we're talking about college here, like this is not that much difference. It's just how do you want your social environment to be, and then who has the best program for what you want to do? That's it, ain't nothing else. Anyways, this is.
Speaker 2:That's a fired up and I ain't got nothing else to say we gonna be here all day.
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